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DVCPRO importing (DV50 vs. Uncompressed)
Posted by Brian Pitt on September 20, 2005 at 1:23 pmDoes anybody have any input on the following?
I am going to be editing a bunch of stuff on DVCPRO in Final Cut. I am new to the format and had a few questions:
What is the best way to import for the highest end result? (firewire vs. capture card)
Is there a way to import compressed, make edits, and then re-import uncompressed for end result?
Any tips or advice on importing DVCPRO 50 would be very helpful. thanks!
NeutaMac
Al replied 20 years, 7 months ago 7 Members · 8 Replies -
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Jerry Hofmann
September 20, 2005 at 2:49 pmI think I’d just stay as native as possible… so capture via FireWire or SDI as DVCPRO50, and edit away…
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David Roth weiss
September 20, 2005 at 3:01 pmThere is zero benefit to you capturing uncompresssed. DV50 captured to hard drive via firewire is bit for bit what is recorded on tape, and in addition, audio and timecode are captured at the same time via the same cable. And, 250gb hard drives sell for $120 now — thats space for well over 100 hours of DV50. Why would you even think about capturing lo-res???
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Brian Pitt
September 20, 2005 at 3:05 pmThanks. I didn’t realize you can fit that much footage onto the hard drive. I purchased a 1TB G-raid drive, so I shouldn’t have problems. thanks again!
NeutaMac
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Tony
September 20, 2005 at 3:50 pmThe benefits of capturing uncompressed would be see in complex color correction or keying sequences.
If you have a video card such as AJA kona or Kona 2 you can capture to the mac in firewire and later output via SDI to record to digi beta or other format.
Tony Salgado
Tony Salgado
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Walter Biscardi
September 20, 2005 at 4:00 pm[Brian Pitt] “Thanks. I didn’t realize you can fit that much footage onto the hard drive. I purchased a 1TB G-raid drive, so I shouldn’t have problems. thanks again!”
Just as a reference, I cut 7 episodes of a show for broadcast (22 minutes each) via DVCPro HD and with full corrections, filtering, etc and ready for mastering it all came to less than 400GB.
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Dan Riley
September 20, 2005 at 9:15 pmWell, if you don’t have a capture card and a bunch of drives for a RAID
then do it all native firewire. Your actual footage from your DVCPRO
tape will look the same whether it’s edited on a DV/DVCPRO timeline
or an uncompressed timeline. However, you can get better looking titles,
keys and graphics with a higher rez codec other than DV/DVCPRO.
Either DVCPRO50 or uncompressed 8 bit or 10 bit is best for your finished show.
My workflow is to offline at DV/DVCPRO, inputing our DVCPRO
footage via our Aurora Pipe Studio card via SDI. Then for the
finished show I uprez to 10 bit uncompressed.Dan
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Al
September 21, 2005 at 8:31 amI have a question about this : I’m just testing some captures via Firewire on a AJ-SD930 via Firewire, and the footage looks extremely “DV” whenever I take a look at the individual channels. The FG contours are extremely crunchy.
It was my understanding that by sampling at 4:2:2 the DVCPro codec was much better for keying…
What could I be doing wrong here?Thanks
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Al
September 21, 2005 at 2:50 pmAlso, sorry to repost, but I didn’t mention I’m shooting in 25p, not 50i. Is there a better setting for keying? Does FCP have to know about this setting when capturing?
Thanks
Alex
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