DVCPRO HD to DVD probs

[Rennie Klymyk]

Are you creating an HD-dvd or sd-dvd? What settings are you using in compressor?

[David Roth weiss]

[morgster] “Can anyone offer any pointers?”

Not with the limited amount of information you’ve provided…

There are lots of very knowledgable people here and lots of great pointers to be had, but this is a business that requires precision. To get valueable help you need to get more precise.

We have no idea what version of FCP you’re using. No idea what preset you’ve chosen in Compressor. What bitrate you’re using. What you’re using to burn to DVD. Whether there’s a possibility of recompression at any stage. Etc., etc.

[Simon Morgan]

Sorry boys…

Exporting from 720p24 timeline to compressor…

Using latest version of FCP 5… using compressor’s best quality 60 min encode 16×9…

Not changing any bitrate settings… not adding any filters etc…just leaving as is…

Then once the Mpeg2 is made I import into DVD studio Pro and build my DVD project.

When I play the DVD I notice everything is very rough… ie you can see jagged edges on all curved lines.

Hope this helps you help me…

[David Roth weiss]

[morgster] “Hope this helps you help me…”

Well done!!! That’s much better…

I’ll do a little tinkering on this end and I’ll get back to you shortly if I spot something that needs attention.

DRW

[John Foley]

Any RED Laser DVD must be 29.97 fps. Using a progressive frame rate will not work in a RED Laser DVD., either 4:3 or 16:9.

The HD-DVD feature can accomodate other frame rates but I don’t know about 720p since that must go to H.264 and use a special player.

The content must play-out to a display device. IN the USA that is NTSC AND NTSC IS 29.97 STANDARD.

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[Ben Holmes]

[morgster] “Can anyone offer any pointers?”

Don’t expect an SD DVD to look anywhere near as good as the HD source. It’s a rough, pixellated format…

Just a thought…

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[David Roth weiss]

[FinalOne] “Any RED Laser DVD must be 29.97 fps. Using a progressive frame rate will not work in a RED Laser DVD., either 4:3 or 16:9.

The content must play-out to a display device. IN the USA that is NTSC AND NTSC IS 29.97 STANDARD.”

Yikes!!! What does this have to with anything??? Are you trying to say that SD DVDs are not made from progressive sources? Because they are made all day long. I just made one from a 720p 24fps animation I created to test Morgster’s settings. And, all modern DVD players made after about the year 2000 are quite capable of displaying progressive and adding pulldown when needed.

[David Roth weiss]

Morgster,

I just created a 720p 24fps animation (just moving colored circles and squares) to test most of what you described in your workflow and settings, except for two differences — I authored and burned using my tried and true apps on the PC platform, i.e. ReelDVD (authoring) and Nero (buring). There was minor aliasing on some edges, but otherwise all was good. I’ll now try DVDSP to see if there’s a difference. BTW, I did my test using ReelDVD because it is still one of the absolute best authoring apps that sticks to the DVD spec more religiously than any of the more modern apps such as DVDSP.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles

[David Roth weiss]

Okay Morgan, here’s the deal…

Created 720p 24fps animation in Combustion
Rendered out to DVCProHD 720p 24
Edited three files back to back in FCP (latest ver)
Encoded to MPEG2 from the timeline using Compressor best 60-min preset with no changes or filters
Imported into DVDSP to Build and Burn.

The result when played back on an HD monitor with good quality Denon settop player compared to same MPEG2 files authored using ReelDVD and burmned using Nero: DVDSP produced noticeable jaggies, increased aliasing, movement not nearly as smooth.

I’m not certain if this is simply an issue of settings, or just the app itself.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles

[Simon Morgan]

So am I to assume that DVD studio Pro would be the culprit then?

That’s strange that nobody else has ever really noticed this before. I guess I should look at investing in one of the programs you mentioned… was it Reel DVD or Nero?

SM