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  • DVC PRO HD Digitize

    Posted by Daniel Garriga on April 7, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    Hello all,

    Ive been digitizing about 30 tapes in DVCPRO HD using a Deck via Firewire 400. Why is it that some tapes are digitized at 59.94 and some at 23.97 fps??? I set it to one frame rate and it keeps digitizing at those different rates.

    Also, I need to multiclip this footage. I just tried and it wont let me because the frame rates are different! Is there any way around this besides making new quicktimes to the right frame rate!?

    Thanks. Using Final Cut Pro 6.0.6

    Matt Campbell replied 16 years ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Rob Grauert

    April 7, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    I THINK you will have to use the frame rate converter. I believer if you record DVCPro HD to tape, it’s ALWAYS recording 59.94

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  • Matt Campbell

    April 7, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    RobI believer if you record DVCPro HD to tape, it’s ALWAYS recording 59.94

    It sure is. The deck plays out at 59.94 and when you capture, you’ll then have to remove those flagged frames. I learned the hard way. We shot 24p to tape and when I digitized it was 59.94. I had to use Cinema Tools to remove the pulldown to get it back to 24p or 23.98.

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  • Walter Biscardi

    April 7, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    [Matt Campbell] “I had to use Cinema Tools to remove the pulldown to get it back to 24p or 23.98.”

    The Panasonic Frame Rate Converter is much easier for this and it works right in Final Cut Pro. This is how we’ve been handling this for years now.

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  • Daniel Garriga

    April 7, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    Thanks for these responses. I think I am about to learn the hard way as we speak. My production manager is gonna kill me!

    But why are the tapes capturing at 59.94 sometimes and 23.98 sometimes!? It’s really random

  • Daniel Garriga

    April 7, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    I just did one clip in the DVC PRO HD frame converter from 59.94 to 23.98 but when I played the converted clip back it didnt have any sound.

    In the conversion options i selected: 23.98, Remove Duplicate Frames, and Make Self Contained File. I didnt check Import result into FCP.

  • Matt Campbell

    April 7, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    Ahhhh, didn’t know that. I thought that was only for speed changes and slowMO. Learn something new every day.

    OS 10.5.5, Mac Pro 2 x 3 ghz quad-core intel xenon, 9 gb ram, with BM Intensity Pro card

  • Shane Ross

    April 7, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    FCP sees flags. If the footage is flagged at 24p, then it captures it as 23.98. If the camera wasn’t set to 24p, then the flags weren’t set, and it captures it as 59.94. The 59.94 stuff, does it look REALLY SMOOTH? or does it have the 24p look?

    Shane

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  • Daniel Garriga

    April 7, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    It has a 24p look for sure! Doesnt have soap operaey, news at 6 look.

    I figured out a way around this I think. Im making DVC PRO HD 29.97 SEQ’s and dropping the footage in this and syncing IN the timeline rather than multiclipping. It seems to be working just fine. I chose 29.97 because i am also making DVDs for transcription with burnt in timecode and the timecode character display from the deck is going to 29 frames.

  • Matt Campbell

    April 20, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Walter, the DVC HD Frame rate convertor tells me it will only work with 720p material. I have 1080p material. So is Cinema Tools my only option then for reverse telecine and getting back to 23.98?

    OS 10.5.5, Mac Pro 2 x 3 ghz quad-core intel xenon, 9 gb ram, with BM Intensity Pro card

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