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  • DV50 is Ruined in FCP 6

    Posted by Sean Oneil on June 14, 2007 at 10:43 pm

    Lovley day today. We have a project shot and captured DV50. We captured it using 5.1.4, and later the editor working on it updated to 6. It was some point after that he noticed a very sublte stuttering going on during camera pans. It’s hard to notice, but once you see it you realize how terrible it is.

    His machine had a Decklink card. We copied the project to a different FCP6 machine that has a Kona 3. Same exact problem.

    We then copied it to a machine that did not yet upgrade to 6. Surprise, surprise. The problem went away.

    Looks like DV50 Quicktime components that come with version 6 are totally whacked.

    Can someobody else check this out. It’s really weird nobody has mentioned this yet.

    Walter Biscardi replied 18 years, 11 months ago 9 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    June 14, 2007 at 10:48 pm

    I wonder how that footage would look captured in FCP 6? Might be an issue of working with older footage on a newer system. Which should NEVER BE AN ISSUE, but for Apple seems to be the rule more than the exception. Stupidly.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Sean Oneil

    June 14, 2007 at 11:05 pm

    I’d love to test it out capturing w/ v.6, but we sold our 1200A.

    I guess I could capture Kona/Blackmagic and encode to DV50. See if the problem is still there.

    If someone reading this has DV50 footage on there Mac with FCP 6 installed, please check this out. If I’m the only one who sends them feedback over this, I’m sure it will be ignored.

    Further info. It was captured using firewire option on a Panasonic 1200A to FCP 5.1.4. The footage was shot in 29.97 mode (no pulldown) and was anamorphic.

  • Tom Matthies

    June 14, 2007 at 11:33 pm

    Hmmm…
    I getting ready to upgrade soon (I already have the software) and I usually edit my footage at DV50. I have a lot of archival clips that I need to pull up for spots. It would not be good if DV50 is broken. Not good at all.
    I think I’ll be watching this thread closely.
    Tom

  • Aaron Neitz

    June 14, 2007 at 11:44 pm

    Don’t have 6 yet, but sounds like the fields are being displayed out of order? I’ve seen this when a Flame captured footage on Field 1 when it should have been capturing 2. The slightest, hard to nail down stuttering…. you think you’re crazy at first, but it’s there.

  • Jan Crittenden livingston

    June 14, 2007 at 11:48 pm

    Horrible stuttering sounds like someone that is shooting video style with the camera set to 24P. What were the setting on the camera?

    Best,

    Jan

    Jan Crittenden Livingston
    Product Manager, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50, AG-DVX100
    Panasonic Broadcast & TV Systems

  • John Pale

    June 14, 2007 at 11:51 pm

    Just played back a sequence I did about a month ago in DV50 and it appears fine. Its a short sequence though.

  • Sean Oneil

    June 15, 2007 at 12:46 am

    [CharlieX]
    Don’t have 6 yet, but sounds like the fields are being displayed out of order? I’ve seen this when a Flame captured footage on Field 1 when it should have been capturing 2. The slightest, hard to nail down stuttering…. you think you’re crazy at first, but it’s there.”

    This sounds like the best description of it. It’s VERY subtle and very hard to see. But its not the kind of thing you could let go of either. No way could you deliver something with that issue going on.

    I’ll check the field dominance tomorrow morning.

    Sean

  • Sean Oneil

    June 15, 2007 at 12:48 am

    [Jan Crittenden Livingston] “Horrible stuttering sounds like someone that is shooting video style with the camera set to 24P. What were the setting on the camera?”

    No, the camera was not set to 24p, and that’s not what the problem is like. It’s like it skips a frame every few seconds. Even if it was that wouldn’t explain why it plays fine on Final Cut 5.

    Sean

  • Chris Poisson

    June 15, 2007 at 2:16 am

    Yikes! I have to revise a DV50 job I did last month, hope they haven’t upgraded yet!

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 15, 2007 at 3:52 am

    Make a new DV50 sequence in FCP 6, and then copy paste your whole sequence into this new sequence. Are you sure that the FCP6 sequence is setup correctly? Trying using the stock dv50 setting from FCP, copy paste, then change your video output to the BM hardware, perhaps the BM easy setups are busted.

    Jeremy

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