Creative Communities of the World Forums

The peer to peer support community for media production professionals.

Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy DV Tape problem – wiped or lost footage

  • DV Tape problem – wiped or lost footage

    Posted by Michelle Orpe on August 15, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    Hello there

    I have just purchased a sony HC9 off Ebay (I know that was my first mistake) I took it on my holiday of a lifetime (Italy) and shot 2 full tapes worth of footage (TDK Mini DV 60mins) I had played back some of the footage I took and it was all fine. Halfway through the 2nd tape I went to look back at something I had filmed that day and the viewfinder was only showing blue when I played, when I fast forwarded it would show the footage, but when I stopped it was only showing a blue screen. I put in the first tape and the same thing was happening (even though the day before I could watch the footage back perfectly). Now I have got home and all it shows is blue, it doesn’t even show the footage now when I fast forward like it did before.

    I put the tapes in my Sony V1E and they only play blue, when I try to capture them to FCP says there is no footage, although when I play the tapes in my sony HC9 it does still have all the time codes on there of the different bursts of footage I took, but still only a blue screen.

    I put an old tape I know works with footage into the sony HC9 and it plays it but it keeps stopping and pausing and juttering making me think it is a problem with the heads, maybe they need cleaning.

    My questions:

    Is the footage I took on my dream holiday lost and if not how do I get it back? (I know it was there originally as I had watched it back on previous days)

    What do I clean the head with?

    What tapes should I buy in future as I am shooting my friends wedding using the Sony V1E and the Sony HC9 and I can’t have this problem with the HC9 happen again, should I get mini DV or DVCAM and what brand?

    Any help anyone could give me would be REALLY appreciated

    Thanks
    Michelle

    Michelle Orpe
    http://www.michelleorpe.com

    Philip White replied 13 years, 9 months ago 7 Members · 10 Replies
  • 10 Replies
  • Everest Mokaeff

    August 15, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    There is a special type of cleaning cassette you need to use. No rocket science – just load it and play for 15 sec. Read instruction on tape carefully before proceeding. There is a 50/50 chance to rescue all the footage. Success depends on whose fault it is. If it’s cassette you’re in trouble.
    No one can give you a guarantee that nothing like that would ever happen to you if only you used this or that brand of MiniDV cassette. They all prone to malfunction due to the very nature of the medium. You mentioned Italy. I guess you had to get thru customs. You’d be surprised what X-ray exposure could do to tape. There are plenty of very affordable and reliable tapeless consumer video cameras to use. may be it’s time to take one of them?

    Sony PMW-EX3, Canon Mark II 5D, FCS3 in Moscow
    http://www.mokaeff.com

  • Kevin Reiner

    August 15, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    I feel for you. I lost an entire trip to Germany because of a light leak in the camera (pre-digital age – I’m old.) Then I lost footage of the first 4 months of my son’s life because I used the wrong power adapter on my camera. Both losses were heartbreaking.

    Maybe try a data recovery service. I did a quick search and found https://datarecoverysystems.com/

    I in no way endorse them, it was just from a quick search, so I would check into anything before trying it. Just a thought though. Hope you find a way to salvage it.

    -Kevin

    Mac Pro 2 x 3 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon
    32GB Memory
    Dual-channel 4Gb Fibre Channel PCI Express card
    Dell Display (23″ flat panel)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770
    AJA Kona LSi SD/HD capture card
    Rourke 16 TB
    Flanders 2460

    SOFTWARE
    Mac OS X 10.6.5
    FCP 7
    After Effects CS5
    Boris Continuum
    Sapphire Plug Ins
    All Trapcode Plugs
    Zaxwerks Invig

  • Dennis Leppell

    August 15, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    My guess….bad tracking from a misaligned head. Our old canon xl2’s were prone to this. After some time, the tapes would only play back smoothly in the xl2 itself, but choppy and pixelated in a deck….eventually it would get to where that wouldn’t even work, and the cameras had to go in for service (cleaning/aligning).

    My recommendation would be to find the best deck you can get your hands on, and see if you can adjust the tracking to recover your footage, or possibly even find another HC9 and try to play back in that.

  • Mark Suszko

    August 15, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    I think the good news (if any) is that the signal is on the original tapes. You’re looking at clogged or damaged playback heads and a trackign error problem.

    The best advice I can give you is to take the tapes to a pro editor that has Sony DVCPro or Sony DVCAM decks. Either of these broadcast quality decks can play back consumer DV tapes with an adaptor, and might be able to recover the signal, the Panasonic one used to be touted to have the widest playback and record heads, so this may have the best chance of daeling with your tracking problem. have the post house lay the tapes off to something else for you, a hard drive or at least some DVD-R’s.

  • Dennis Leppell

    August 15, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    If I’m not mistaken, the HC9 is an HDV camera, so you’ll need to find someone with an HDV deck.

  • Rafael Amador

    August 15, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    [Michelle Orpe] ” the viewfinder was only showing blue when I played, when I fast forwarded it would show the footage, but when I stopped it was only showing a blue screen”
    Yeap.
    Buy and run a “Cleaning Cassette”.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Michelle Orpe

    August 15, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    Thank you all so much for your advice, I am going to try all the above and fingers crossed

    Mx

    Michelle Orpe
    http://www.michelleorpe.com

  • Michelle Orpe

    August 17, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    OK, so I took the advice and bought a cleaning head, I have played it for 10 seconds and the camera seems to be working, I have recorded and playedback and all fine. I put the original Italian tapes in and they are still only playing until I fast forward, when I fastforward all the footage is there but when I press play it only plays blue, this happens on both tapes. So at least the footage is there but I cannot capture it into FCP and it won’t work on other camcorders.

    Any ideas, so many people haven’t of this before

    Mich

    Michelle Orpe
    http://www.michelleorpe.com

  • Kevin Reiner

    August 17, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    This is a long shot.

    I had a tape where the control track was damaged. I could hear the audio but couldn’t see the footage unless played in reverse. So I used a professional deck to play in reverse and then digitized. Brought it into FCP and reversed it back to normal. I had to then record the audio and try to sync the entire tape. The image quality was horrible but watchable.

    Overall, I am guessing that you are having a control track issue. This could be because of a defect in the tape or the camera. I would recommend finding someone in your area who has a professional deck and see if they can view it. Ask if they can adjust tracking. They may check it for you for free on hopes of billing you for a transfer. If that doesn’t work, then go the data recovery route.

    Mac Pro 2 x 3 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon
    32GB Memory
    Dual-channel 4Gb Fibre Channel PCI Express card
    Dell Display (23″ flat panel)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770
    AJA Kona LSi SD/HD capture card
    Rourke 16 TB
    Flanders 2460

    SOFTWARE
    Mac OS X 10.6.5
    FCP 7
    After Effects CS5
    Boris Continuum
    Sapphire Plug Ins
    All Trapcode Plugs
    Zaxwerks Invig

  • Philip White

    August 7, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    Hi,
    I’ve just filmed some footage this past weekend and had the exact same problem. The footage is on the MiniDV tape because I can see it on the PC in Premiere Pro when fast forwarding the tape, yet its only blue in playback both on the PC and camcorder itself (it doesn’t show up on the LCD of the camera in fast forward unfortunately but I HAVE seen it! lol)

    I can’t capture mine either and have no idea what to do. I’m guessing from reading everyone’s posts it’s a tracking thing.

    Did you manage to recover your Italy footage? And if so how did you go about it?

    Thanks in advance,

    Phil

We use anonymous cookies to give you the best experience we can.
Our Privacy policy | GDPR Policy