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  • duplicating crowds of extras

    Posted by Nick Szpara on July 30, 2005 at 7:00 pm

    hey,
    i was wondering if anyone here has any experience/knowledge with taking a crowd of extras and duplicating them to fill a room.
    i was thinking along the lines of locking off a camera then moving the actors to the different sections of the room and then use AE to mix them all together, but i dont know how clean that would turn out, or how much rotoscoping with masks i would have to do. would green screen be an option?
    thanks
    nick

    Jason replied 20 years, 9 months ago 4 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Filip Vandueren

    July 30, 2005 at 9:37 pm

    I think the first scenario would work best if it’s like people sitting down in an auditorium or something like that.
    If there’s more movement and more possibilities of people cross-secting or interacting at the edges: then greenscreen could help you.
    ofcourse, take care of lighting- and especially perspective continuity between your background plate and your keyed footage.

  • Chris Smith

    July 31, 2005 at 3:35 pm

    The way it’s often done in movies and commercials (if it’s not digital extras) is to either do a lock off, or use motion control for moving shots. First shoot a plate shot with no one in the shot. Then take the small group and have them sit in one section with green screen behind them where there needs to show more extras. Then they change clothes and rearrange. Sit in the next section with green screen behind them once again where ever something may need to be placed behind them and so on till you have enough to fill the scene.

    We did a opening wide shot where we needed a group of people talking in front of a fleet of trucks. But we only had one truck. We locked off the cam. Shot a plate of the environment. Moved the truck to each position and shot some film. Then put the group of people in the FG with greenscreen behind them. The ppl were keyed out and the vans were masked. But vans don’t move or change shape so in that case roto is far simpler than setting up greenscreen on set whereas it is the opposite case for ppl.

    Chris Smith
    https://www.sugarfilmproduction.com

  • Jason

    July 31, 2005 at 4:33 pm

    try doing a search here or over at the trapcode forum for a clip that “belief” did using trapcodes particular to replicate a crowd with a small number of people. was very impressive.

    good luck,
    j

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