Duplicating and trimming clips vs using Favorites

[Alex Snelling]

Hey John

Very interesting point you make and one that I have been thinking about for a few months and testing different methods. From the amount of replies you’ve had, it seems not many people are actually considering the long form dock workflow like this in X yet. I am surprised as this is crucial to me and to pro workflow.

With the new 10.0.3 update I note favourites are now searchable however I am also thinking about the “sub clip” method.
So now you could duplicate a clip, rename it, select the range as a favourite, assign a keyword and filter for favourites. This effectively creates a sub clip but a better creation process would be to select a range and then choose “make sub clip” from the menu, which is something I hope might appear in the future as it is effectively the same thing but done in a different order.

Have you got any further down the line? Did you choose a method for logging and subclipping?

Cheers
Alex

Alex Snelling
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[John Kirkilis]

Hi Alex,

Perfect timing on your reply. When my question didn’t receive any replies, I wondered if there was something obvious I was missing. My wife has been fighting a nasty bout with bronchitis, so she hasn’t asked me to show her how to proceed… until yesterday.

Thanks for letting me know about favorite renames being included in text searches in 10.0.3. My background is in programming and databases, so I tend to question appropriate levels of structure and abstraction. A clip in the event library is created during the ingest process. It is a pointer to a range of time on a physical clip that just so happens to cover the entire physical clip. At a functional level, if I create a duplicate of that pointer and change the in and out points, I have another pointer with all the same capabilities as the original.

To me, interview questions seem to be hard structural demarcations that deserve more than the slipperiness of favorites and keywords. Within the footage associated with a particular interview question, I would use favorites and rejects to point to the usable and unusable sections. I would use keywords to identify who is asking and answering the question, which parts are the question vs the answer, emotion (sadness, laughter, tears, anger), interior/exterior, location, subject matter, etc.. Notes could capture anything else that doesn’t need to be consistent across clips.

I haven’t amassed any experience yet to validate or contradict these criteria for organizing footage. I did not physically record separate clips during an interview session, since there can often be a flow of questions that I wouldn’t want to interrupt.

I’ll know shortly if this makes sense in practice. I’m all ears if you beat me to it.

John