Dual mono

[Mike Velte]

Select the clip in the project window, then choose Clip on the Menu bar>Audio Options>Breakout to mono clips. You now have 3 .avi files in the bin instead of one. Add another Mono track to the timeline. The clunky part is that you will need to drag each of the 3 clips to their respective track (instead of one drag or a multiple drag where they drop kinda crazy). Lastly, lasso the 3 clips in the timeline and right click on that selection and choose “Group”.

[Tim Kolb]

[bouke] “What i want is the way most programs work, have locked dual mono audio and video.

Is this possible with PP?
Workarounds?”

Hey Bouke,

Unfortunately two mono tracks on capture is not possible in PPro v1.5. Mike explained the procedure for splitting the thing apart already. I have found it easiest (though far from elegant) to simply dupe the audio track to make two stereo pairs, then use the Audio Effects “Fill Right” or “Fill Left” to get two independent tracks that occupy the full pan range. (You’ll have to link the manufactured track on the timeline.)

One caution. Fill Right means “Fill (left)with the Right channel”, not “Fill the right channel with the left”.

PPro is moving forward…very quickly in some areas and slower in others…

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[bouke Bouke]

Thanks.
(already found it out yesterday after dinner, in the previous posts, but IE crashed on sent, taking the whole damn machine down…)

This is enough for me not to use PP, i have 20 hours of footage to edit in one week by a non-editor. This is impossible as it is, and certainly not gonna happen with such a clunky interface.
(Probably client wants me to fix his edit afterwards, and i like to keep sane for at least a few years more)

I really like the responsiveness of PP compared to Avid XpressDV, but this stupid little “feature” has made me decide to not use PP for normal editing. It’s just too much of a hassle.

Who thought of this in a “pro” package? I could understand it from a consumer point of view, but, i’m 17 years in this business and i’ve yet to see a field tape with stereo audio. (Of course even MS is impossible this way)

Later,
Bouke

[Erik Mickelson]

I agree 100%. The lack of “real” pro features in PPro has made me stop using it altogether. I keep coming back to this forum to see if anything has happened that would make this a worthwhile program-NOPE! You should check out the keyframing in PPro = a complete mess. Sorry to rant, er, no I’m not, I payed a lot of money for this slap-stick software. Whatever. Maybe in the future we will have dual mono audio and end of clip visibility while keyframing(it is black now).

[Steven L. gotz]

Sounds like you didn’t spend any time learning the product Eric.

The last keyframe is a well known issue. You need to be at the betginning of the frame, not at the end of it.

There is nothing particularly wrong with the way that keyframes work. You just need to spend 5 minutes learning how.

Steven
Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5.1 / After Effects 6.5 Pro https://www.stevengotz.com
Learning Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 https://www.lynda.com
Contributing Writer, PeachPit Press, Visual QuickPro Guide, Premiere Pro 1.5

[Erik Mickelson]

Thanks for the quick response Stove, how does a person arrive at the beginning of the last frame elegantly. I just figured it worked like everything else, you know, push the end key. Is it a two step process? Do you have any other quick tips for PPro? Something on the Cow would be great, like a “Things you didn’t know but should in PPro”. How does a person achieve “modes” like overlay or addition or multiply to composite tracks in PPro? I WANNA KNOW! Only if you know.
Thanks Steve.

[Mike Smith]

Having a bad day, Erik? Or is this you in normal mode? Bet your work’s a barrel of fun!

[Tim Kolb]

[Erik] “Thanks for the quick response Stove, how does a person arrive at the beginning of the last frame elegantly. I just figured it worked like everything else, you know, push the end key. Is it a two step process? Do you have any other quick tips for PPro? Something on the Cow would be great, like a “Things you didn’t know but should in PPro”. How does a person achieve “modes” like overlay or addition or multiply to composite tracks in PPro? I WANNA KNOW! Only if you know.”

PPro doesn’t have transfer modes like AE, but then many NLE packages don’t…even some “pro” applications.

My workaround for previewing the last keyframe thing is to hit “end” then hit the left arrow to tick back one frame.

There is a reason for this behavior. The keyframes in PPro are actually sub-frame placeable. The “end” of the clip isn’t technically until the “end” of the last frame…however the cursor views forward. Also, this allows previewing of the entire clip, including opacity fades out-completely.

I recognize that if you’re used to using something else, it can be a little frustrating, but there are some behaviors in PPro that have a sensible logic to them…it just may not be exactly the same logic as Avid…

v2 will be coming one of these days and I have a feeling at least a few of the various issues people have been bringing up will see some attention.

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Bob Cole]

[Mike_S] “Having a bad day, Erik? Or is this you in normal mode? Bet your work’s a barrel of fun!”

Can we please avoid personal attacks?

— BC