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  • Dual GPUs on current Mac Pros

    Posted by Christian Schumacher on June 13, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    Amongst graphics updates in Mac OS X and the new Mac Pro dual GPU set up, what should we expect during this transitional period? Couldn’t those new GPU cards just released for the current MacPro be used in a dual fashion to take advantage of newly created editing support for multiple cards? FCPX seems to be going in that direction for obvious reasons, Adobe Premiere is said to support dual GPUs for exporting already and also Blackmagic’s Resolve works with several ones. But what about AVID or Smoke? Or any post production related software for that matter? Like AE, Motion, C4D, Lightworks, Edius,etc…Shouldn’t all of them go dual GPU friendly? And also, is there any possible reason or some esoteric situation where current Mac Pros with current GPUs should NOT take advantage of these developments? Thanks in advance for any insight on this.

    Christian Schumacher replied 12 years, 11 months ago 6 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Ridley Walker

    June 13, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    The current MacPros don’t have the power internally (or power connections) to support multiple cards of this type.

    More boards requires an external PCIe chassis, like those from Cubix.

    https://www.cubix.com

  • Christian Schumacher

    June 13, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    Yes, users who run multiple cards need that. Or even for a couple of powerful ones, sure.
    Anything is valid depending on how long you need to wait to switch your systems.
    But I am talking about running two (Dual=2) PCI 2.0 16X cards (single 6 pin each).

    https://www.gizmag.com/nvidia-quadro-k5000-mac-pro/24045/

    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/3/930857

    As far as I know, we have so far the ATI 5770 and both Quadros 4000/5000.
    And people have been also mixing eg. 5770 and Q4000. So there’s that…
    Moreover, I’m interested in the software implications of dual GPU support (being Open CL or CUDA)

    Thanks for the reply.

  • Eric Fiegehen

    June 13, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    Hi Christian,

    Cubix has extensive experience working with 3x GTX 680 or multiple Quadro 4000 cards running in Xpander, which is attached to the Mac Pro in Slot 2. I would recommend staying away from GTX 690 since Apple limits OSX support to 4x GPUs maximum, and those GTX 690 cards require lots of power (therefore requiring lots of fan noise to cool).

    Other I/O cards people attach to the current Mac Pro via Xpander include RED Rocket(s), ATTO, Fusion-io ioFX, and several others.

    Eric Fiegehen
    Director, Visualization & GPU Compute Solutions
    Cubix Corporation
    ericc@cubix.com
    https://www.cubix.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 14, 2013 at 12:39 am

    What I wonder about is if these computers are going to be able to run Fcs3.

    I know Motion is out, but does fcp7 work ok with dual GPUs?

    I haven’t tried it, but I seem to remember there were issues at some point.

    What about Color?

  • Andrew Kimery

    June 14, 2013 at 1:37 am

    Color balks when it detects two GPUs. Even a Blackmagic card set to “extended desktop” mode would keep Color from launching.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 14, 2013 at 1:43 am

    I thought that Color might have an issue.

    What about fcp?

  • Christian Schumacher

    June 14, 2013 at 2:28 am

    [Jeremy Garchow]
    What about fcp?”

    Those are exactly the scenarios I’m trying to come up with, thank you for chiming in Jeremy. Although the studio I’m looking for to update is 90% Adobe CS, they still use some legacy and so I’m also curious if FCP 7 can run without issues with dual GPUs (Color has problems but they are “resolved” already). But my overall concern is current Mac software and current GPU hardware on “legacy” hardware. I believe that If one is dealing with MacPros in a post production workflow, there’s a lot of options today for upgrading the current Apple workstation. Since the new updates of its OS, Apple has unlocked several video cards that only could run on Windows before. And last year, both AMD and nVidia have released Mac editions of theirs products, offering for example 3GB and 4 GB VRAM options. You can have high-end Quadros 5000 that one can run two of them in tandem in a Mac Pro without any additional power. Or you could set up a smaller and a bigger one ( or a single huge one) and then use a slick power unit housed in the optical bay that costs just 90 dollars. The optical bay is also such an easy location for placing one or two SSDs. All the cabling is already there. And you know this new Mac Pro and its PCI SSD? There’s PCI SSD for current Mac Pros too. These are optimal solutions for speeding up your MacPro that also save space for your HDD bays.

  • Andrew Kimery

    June 14, 2013 at 3:11 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] “I thought that Color might have an issue.

    What about fcp?”

    Not a concrete answer, but I never had FCP Legend find conflict w/multiple GPUs even though on the same machine Color would not launch if it detected multiple GPUs.

    My guess is that FCP Legend, lik the honey badger, doesn’t give a damn.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 14, 2013 at 3:17 am

    Thank you, Andrew.

  • Andrew Kimery

    June 14, 2013 at 6:02 am

    No sweat. Sharing knowledge and bickering incessantly is what we do, right? 😉

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