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DSR-11 v. Best Buy Camcorder
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Yikes! Go guys!
Have a wonderful day.
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[walter biscardi] “You can debate it all you want. I’ve use the S-Video output many times to capture DV/DVCAM for projects that were a mix of Beta, DigiBeta and DV/DVCAM and the quality is a great match for the other material. It works and it works well.”
Well I guess I’d have to agree with Rick on this one, as there really is no debate. I would also have to agree with you Walter in the fact that it does work and works well. However my original point was that component output will definitely give you a superior quality image compared to S-video, no doubt about that.
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i know i’m out of topic with this question but here we go…
Does the DSR-11 have the same mechansim as the 1500? Or at least, does it has the same speed and reliability than the 1500 ?
The 1500 at the shop really makes batch capturing painless. If the DSR-11 is as fast, there’s no debate on the DSR-11 vs Best Buy camcorders.
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[Chris Poisson] “Just curious Walter, why would you use S-video over Firewire for capture?”
When mixing DV / DVCAM with BetaSP / DigiBeta or any other uncompressed format in a 720×486 timeline I find the quality of the image is much better when bringing in the DV / DVCAM natively to 720×486. So I’ll run the S-Video out of the DSR-11 to my AJA Io LA.
This also eliminates the need to render 720×480 footage in an uncompressed timeline.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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[Frank Nolan] “However my original point was that component output will definitely give you a superior quality image compared to S-video, no doubt about that.”
That has actually been debated quite a bit on this forum in the past and depending on who you quote, you’ll get different opinions. Some engineers have said in the past that S-Video is superior to Component on some machines in certain situations.
I don’t really care as the machine doesn’t have a Component output option so the debate is moot on this machine. But if you all want to keep discussing amongst yourselves, feel free to do so.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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I recall reading that the DSR-11 has the same transport as the Sony AIT drives and it is based more on a backup tape drive mechanism…the 1500 deck has a more responsive deck and quicker. i have little experience with the DSR-11 but own a DSR-1500 which has been flawless.
Rich Rubasch
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[Le Coyote] “Does the DSR-11 have the same mechansim as the 1500? Or at least, does it has the same speed and reliability than the 1500 ?”
DSR-11 has been running here for years now with no hiccups. Excellent machine and excellent reliability.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Alright, so it’s convenient and I do it too. It looks great. But there is no debate that a component digital signal via firewire looks immensely better both on scopes and in person than an svideo signal. Perhaps if your monitors aren’t hooked up via component, then it’s sort of a weakest link thing. If uou’re viewing everything via composite or svideo (you didn’t say) then there would be absoletly no difference. But if you’re viewing component, then you’ll notice the lack of sharpness from the svideo. And hopefully you’re bumping up the illegal blacks that come out of the dsr-11 to match other analog sources. But I know you are.
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I’d guess that the 1500 is probably more durable, but the specs are the same as far as speed and useability go. It’s never going to as responsive as a beta deck. Why DVCam decks can’t be like that I don’t know. It’d be nice.
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[Bret Williams] “But there is no debate that a component digital signal via firewire looks immensely better both on scopes and in person than an svideo signal.”
A component signal via Firewire? I didn’t know you could do that.
[Bret Williams] “If uou’re viewing everything via composite or svideo (you didn’t say) then there would be absoletly no difference. But if you’re viewing component, then you’ll notice the lack of sharpness from the svideo. And hopefully you’re bumping up the illegal blacks that come out of the dsr-11 to match other analog sources. But I know you are.”
Viewing through a PVM20L5/1 multi-format HD/SD monitor via component. It’s a pretty good monitor, got it from the back room at Best Buy.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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