DSLR Vs. Sony Z7U with 35mm Adaptor

[Steve Rhoden]

“Should I buy a another z7u with a Letus 35mm Adaptor”
That would be my personal decision and to avoid the extra step
of color matching and other issues that may arise.

Steve Rhoden
(Cow Leader)
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Filmex Creative Media.
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[Nigel O’neill]

[Frank Stevn] “I need a second camera and I would like to get a cinematic depth of field in my productions.”

In addition to Steve’s advice, matching a full sensor DSLR with the Z7U will be a problem visually as well, especially if it is a multicam shoot. You will be cutting from an image with a great depth of field of the Z7U to the much shallower depth of field of the D600, made possible due to the full format sensor and the use of prime lenses.

Don’t get me wrong: the shallow depth of field adds a beautiful dimension to the shoot, but if your camera cuts are not consistent between cameras, your clients may object.

[Frank Stevn] ” I have not being able to match colors and white balance with the z7u.”

My experience is that you have to manually white balance the 2 cameras at the start of the shoot, and color grade your footage in the edit using a combination of color curves, color correction and brightness and contrast corrections.

SVP12 now has a capability called color match with matches colors on one image to another. If you are not on SVP12 yet, you can get fbmn software color match. I was a beta tester for it and can advise it does work.

If you are editing multicam using Ultimate S, I would download the trial version first. I discovered an issue caused by Sony changing its OFX implementation from SVP 10d onwards, causing unpredictable color results in the Master video track whenever fbmn software color match was applied. As I don’t use Vegas’ inbuilt multicam capabilities, I can’t comment if the issue occurs.

Given you can download fbmn color match for free to trial it, it’s a win-win situation. Frederic Baumann (the developer of color match) is quite reasonable and will grant you an extension to the trial if you ask nicely :-).

[John Rofrano]

As others have said, DSLR’s and HDV cameras are completely different beasts. If you’re looking to do a two camera shoot, do yourself a huge favor and get two of the same cameras. These two are never going to match (unless you plan to make the DSLR look as bad as HDV lol).

~jr

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[Steve Rhoden]

As i said, Simply get another Sony Z7U and save yourself the grief..lol

Steve Rhoden
(Cow Leader)
Film Editor & Compositor.
Filmex Creative Media.
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1-876-832-4956

[Frank Stevn]

Thanks you all.

It is clear that it is not possible to use them in a multicamera shot. I manually adjusted the white balance in the z7u and entered the same K value in the D600 and still the color temperature is different. (The DOF of the D600 is beautiful, but the color temperature of the z7u is more “real”).

[John Rofrano]

[Frank Stevn] “I manually adjusted the white balance in the z7u and entered the same K value in the D600 and still the color temperature is different”

Does the D600 not have a white balance capability.

What you should be doing is holding up a white card in front of both cameras while they are side-by-side and use the camera’s white balance capability to make the card white. The values that each camera uses is irrelevant and probably won’t match. What matters is that they use whatever means necessary to make the card appear white.

~jr

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[Frank Stevn]

Yes, the D600 has a white balance capability.

I tried to set both with a white card but still the Sony is accurate and the Nikon is not correct.

I have read that in photo cameras the white balance is adjusted better with a gray card. I will get one and try it.

[John Rofrano]

[Frank Stevn] “I have read that in photo cameras the white balance is adjusted better with a gray card. I will get one and try it.”

Could be I don’t know. I don’t shoot video with a DSLR. Let us know how you make out.

~jr

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[Steve Rhoden]

Yeah, let us know, i want to know if adjusting the white
balance using a gray card works.

Steve Rhoden
(Cow Leader)
Film Editor & Compositor.
Filmex Creative Media.
https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia
1-876-832-4956

[Bob Peterson]

If the Sony camera is “more accurate”, then there is a problem with either the Nikon or your use of its images. Both white balance and grey balance (you are talking about neutral grey I hope) are aimed at eliminating color imbalances, and either should work. However, white and grey obviously deal with different portions of the tonal scale. I prefer to shoot a target which has white, neutral gray, and black with all cameras. I still white balance the camera, but I also prefer to shoot the target under the same lighting conditions which will exist when I shoot the video (I assume you are already white balancing with the same light). That will allow me to use Vegas’s color corrector to balance high lights (white), mid tones (grey), and low lights (black). Simply use the eye dropper for the complementary color in each of the three tonal ranges. Still image software like Photoshop has the same kind of color balancing tools.