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Dropped frames detected.
Posted by Gerry Condez on August 17, 2009 at 8:48 pmHi,
Need help setup. Cant capture because of dropped frames detected in Final Cut. I am trying to capture HDV footage from Canon HV30 through firewire out to SDI in to Convergent Design LE. Out to Kona 3x. Here are my settings:
Sequence preset – Kona3 -1080i 29.97 Apple ProRez 422
Capture Preset – Kona3 – 1080i 29.97 Apple ProRez 422
Device Control Preset – Non-Controllable Device
Video Playback – 1080i29.97 10bit (1920×1080)
Audio Playback – Aja KonaThe video and audio plays well looking at the log and capture window. But stops every 3 secs and show dropped frames detected . Not sure yet about HD settings and FCS2. Hope someone can point me to the right direction. Thanks – Gerry
David Roth weiss replied 16 years, 8 months ago 5 Members · 15 Replies -
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Richard Sanchez
August 17, 2009 at 8:56 pmAre you trying to capture to a single hard drive or a RAID setup? How many drives in your RAID? Are your hard drives more than 20% full? Need more information on your system, and the settings in FCP would help too.
Richard Sanchez
North Hollywood, CA“We are the facilitators of our own creative evolution.” – Bill Hicks
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Gerry Condez
August 17, 2009 at 9:11 pmHi Richard,
Thanks that was quick.
I have a dual channel raid with 5x300gb Seagate in each enclosure set to Raid 0. Atto UL4D pci-x, Still about 80% left. I wrote the settings of FCP on the first post. Anything else that I missed? Please let me know. Do you need the control panel setting? Should I make desktop picture and post it?
I tried DiskWhack Test from AJA system test: at file size 128MB/Video Frame Size @1920×1080 10 bit RGB/Disable file system cache(checked) : Read 432.o MB/s. Write 342.6 MB/s
Thanks, Gerry -
Gerry Condez
August 17, 2009 at 9:28 pm -
Richard Sanchez
August 17, 2009 at 10:17 pmIt certainly seems like your drives should be fast enough, but I thought that only Quad G5 Power PCs could capture Pro Res. That might be your problem. I’ve certainly captured SD pro res on a Dual G5, but never HD.
Richard Sanchez
North Hollywood, CA“We are the facilitators of our own creative evolution.” – Bill Hicks
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David Roth weiss
August 17, 2009 at 10:29 pmIndeed, as Richard said, you cannot capture to ProRes via a Kona card to a dual processor G5. You can however capture to ProRes via firewire. See the tutorial by Chris Poisson at https://library.creativecow.net/articles/poisson_chris/hdv-prores.php.
David Roth Weiss
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Bob Zelin
August 17, 2009 at 11:31 pm1) close your project.
2) open a new project, open a new sequence. Try capturing again.if this fails, try capturing to your INTERNAL BOOT DRIVE of your MAC. ProRes422 requires very little bandwidth, and you can use a FW800 drive, or single internal SATA drive to do what you need. You are getting over 300Mb/sec on your RAID, which is more than fast enough to do what you want. Eliminate ALL FIREWIRE DEVICES (all FW drives, etc.) from your system while doing these tests, and capture from your Kona 3 at ProRes422 to your internal boot drive (this is a test, and you will delete these files later) just to see if it works.
Bob Zelin
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Bob Zelin
August 17, 2009 at 11:32 pm1) close your project.
2) open a new project, open a new sequence. Try capturing again.if this fails, try capturing to your INTERNAL BOOT DRIVE of your MAC. ProRes422 requires very little bandwidth, and you can use a FW800 drive, or single internal SATA drive to do what you need. You are getting over 300Mb/sec on your RAID, which is more than fast enough to do what you want. Eliminate ALL FIREWIRE DEVICES (all FW drives, etc.) from your system while doing these tests, and capture from your Kona 3 at ProRes422 to your internal boot drive (this is a test, and you will delete these files later) just to see if it works.
Bob Zelin
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David Roth weiss
August 17, 2009 at 11:44 pmBob,
Sorry, but you seem to forgetting one of the very first tenets of ProRes that we all learned about when it was first released.
Gerry has a dual 2.7ghz G5 with PowerPC procs. These machines were, and still are, unable to capture ProRes via a capture card. It has nothing to do with drive throughput, and everything to do with processor speed. As I said before, the dual G5s are able to capture ProRes via firewire — that’s because that process transcodes using delayed buffering while the procs do their work.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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Gerry Condez
August 18, 2009 at 12:39 amHi ,
Michael: “Frame buffer should be 29.97 also not 30”
– Change setting Kona frame buffer and still having dropped frames.Richard: “It certainly seems like your drives should be fast enough, but I thought that only Quad G5 Power PCs could capture Pro Res. That might be your problem. I’ve certainly captured SD pro res on a Dual G5, but never HD”
– Checked with Kona about Legacy system and I think I’m within the specs for HD.Bob, Tried your step by step instructions. I dont have any firewire drives anyway but still getting that dropped frame.
I tried going to the user preference in FCP and deselected the “Abort capture on dropped frames” Somehow it works but I am not sure what the result will be. I’m very new with the system. Also I found out that the clips runs smooth and sharp but there were long black clips at the end of the clip with just audio.
I will look through the older post if there are similar problems. Thank you all and if theres anything related links you know, please advice.
BTW: Never had problems capturing through firewire before. Just want the Kona to work.
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