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  • Drive Recommendation? HVX-200 / DVX100 Documentary.. lots of footage

    Posted by Pierre on January 24, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    I’m working on a documentary which is being shot on the HVX-200 (720p) and the DVX-100.
    We’re about half way through the shoot (I think). There is going to be quit a bit of footage by the time this thing is wrapped. The director editor has asked my advice on drives… so here I am.

    We need a drive big enough to hold all of the footage so that it can be organized and available for FCP. I have a feeling that we’ll need to go with either a firwire 800 or esata multiple (and expandable) drive system. Something that we can add drives to as the project gets bigger.

    This is a relatively low budget project… so money is an issue. I have a feeling that it could get expensive quickly.

    Any suggestions?
    Expandable drive system that will handle DVC-PRO HD, and ProResHQ. Final Cut Pro.

    Thanks !

    John Gyldstrand replied 18 years, 3 months ago 6 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    January 24, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    Well, I use the CalDigit S2VR Duo for my DVCPRO HD storage. Up to 2TB and Raid 0. And I use the Firewire VR to store and archive my valuable P2 footage…set up as Raid 0.

    There are other great boxes out there that you can add drives to yourself…and expand on. The 500P by Sonnettech.com, the Burly Boxes by MacGurus.com. Firmtek as enclosures… But those are all RAID 0 solutions…Raid 1 if you want much slower performance. I would highly recommend RAID 5 solutions. A bit more expensive, but still fast and with protection in case a drive fails….and drives fail.

    CalDigit HDPro or HD One. I tested them and love them.
    Sonnet D800
    Dulce Systems ProDQ (getting my review unit soon, but they are highly reguarded)

    Shane


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  • Pierre

    January 24, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    Yeah, I think Raid 5 is a good idea.
    All footage mirrored on other drives, right?

    This, however takes up twice the storage in which case we would need an enormous drive.

    Do you have any suggestions for RAID 5 drive arrays ?

  • Shane Ross

    January 24, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    [Michael Pierre] “All footage mirrored on other drives, right?

    This, however takes up twice the storage in which case we would need an enormous drive.”

    NO…that is Raid 1. Raid 1 is mirrored. Raid 5 is parity storage. Information spread over all of the drives so if one fails, you are fine. Raid 6 means if you lose two drives, you are fine. Go to the wikipedia and look up RAIDs if you want to read more in depth.

    And I gave you Raid 5 suggestions. Caldigit HDPro and HD One, Dulce ProDQ, Sonnet D800. Others will chime in with other companies they like, I’m sure.

    Shane


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  • Pierre

    January 24, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    thanks.

    sorry, I mis-read your last post.
    I didn’t realize the drives you listed were capable of RAID 5.

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 24, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    [Michael Pierre] “Yeah, I think Raid 5 is a good idea.
    All footage mirrored on other drives, right?

    This, however takes up twice the storage in which case we would need an enormous drive.

    Do you have any suggestions for RAID 5 drive arrays ?”

    As Shane already noted, RAID 5 is parity. Essentially this means you have a hot spare drive sitting in your array that kicks in when another drive fails. All the information is saved and you keep working.

    In our case, we have an 8TB RAID 5 array with 8 drives. One of those drives remains in parity mode and will kick in if any of the other drive fail. We have 6.75TB available storage out of the original 8. So no, you don’t need an “enormous” array for RAID 5.

    In addition to Shane’s recommendations, I highly recommend the MaxxDigital EVO HD series. This is what we run here and they are incredibly fast, 500MB/s in RAID 5. They have a link on this page or just go to maxxdigital.com.

    I tested Dulce, Sonnet and tried CalDigit in the past, but went with the Maxx for our shop. We have two of the EVO HD 8TB units working in two of the suites.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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  • Rainer Wirth

    January 25, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    If you want to work on FW 800 there ia a good LaCie Raid which works on Raid Level 5.
    I work with it and its good, relieable, fast and has got a reasonable prize.

    Rainer Wirth

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 25, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    [Michael Pierre] “This is a relatively low budget project… so money is an issue. I have a feeling that it could get expensive quickly.

    Any suggestions?
    Expandable drive system that will handle DVC-PRO HD, and ProResHQ. Final Cut Pro.”

    MaxxDigital EVO HD system. SAS/SATA with plenty of speed. They have varying storage levels so they probably have one to fit your budget. We run DVCPro HD / ProRes / Uncompressed on them no problem. Our 8TB model gets around 500MB/s in RAID 5 so you get speed and protection.

    We tested Dulce, Sonnet and have used CalDigit in the past, but went with these as they gave us the best performance and their service after the sale as been great.

    maxxdigital.com

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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  • Pierre

    January 25, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    thanks everyone. I appreciate the suggestions and help !
    : )

  • Devon Cook

    January 28, 2008 at 2:04 am

    Hello Michael I represent Maxx Digital.

    I just wanted to mention that while we our very pleased with the EVO HD’s performance and application, we specialize in providing our clients with the best solution for there needs. We provide and support CalDigit, Dulce, Sonnet, LaCie and a variety of other manufactures of storage solutions in addition to the EVO HD.

    Please feel free to contact us for any information or questions about fitting a storage solution to your budget.

    Devon Cook
    http://www.MaxxDigital.com

  • John Gyldstrand

    January 28, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    Michael,please contact me I have a excellent low cost solution for you. John G 714-374-4944 or e-mail me .
    Thank you

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