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  • Drama with breaking out stereo to mono (and editing with mono tracks!)

    Posted by Peter Corbett on April 26, 2005 at 1:09 am

    Problem:

    I have a event video with radio mic on one channel and lapel mic on the other channel. I used the “Breakout to Mono” technique and pasted the Video,Mono 1 and Mono 2 tracks to the timeline. I then grouped the three tracks so they are locked.

    Additional Problem:

    I then want to cut and edit those tracks but because they are grouped, if you razor and select a smaller clip, all the original material is selected and makes editing impossible. You also can’t apply filters individually to a mono track because of the grouping. I can’t make the project mono as there will be stereo music on another track.

    Solution?

    Many thanks,
    Peter

    Peter Corbett replied 19 years, 7 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
  • 10 Replies
  • Steven L. gotz

    April 26, 2005 at 3:01 am

    Assign shortcuts to grouping and ungrouping. Sorry, that’s the best I can offer.

    Unless you put the video and two mono clips in a sequence and edit the nested sequence instead of the clip.

    Steven
    Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 / After Effects 6.5 Pro https://www.stevengotz.com
    Learning Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 https://www.lynda.com
    Contributing Writer, PeachPit Press, Visual QuickPro Guide, Premiere Pro 1.5

  • Peter Corbett

    April 26, 2005 at 3:11 am

    Thnaks Steve, Tried the import sequence thing but it works out the same problem with applying filters and grouping. Guess the mouse finger will be getting some extra duties this week.

    Peter Corbett
    Powerhouse Productions
    Australia

  • Pat Mcgowan

    April 26, 2005 at 3:15 am

    Whoa, this is a major shortfall of this software!! You simply must be able to handle production audio as independent mono files. How can you do video editing without this capability?

  • Peter Corbett

    April 26, 2005 at 3:17 am

    Just one of those little gotchas in life. I usually only have mono field recordings so it’s not a huge issue (generally), but I can see how it can be for a lot of people.

    Peter Corbett
    Powerhouse Productions
    Australia

  • Pat Mcgowan

    April 26, 2005 at 1:00 pm

    This is not a little gotcha. It is a major problem for any post production scenario. Is this on the “must fix” list for PPro 2.0? If not, it really should be.

  • Steve Spaw

    April 26, 2005 at 1:01 pm

    I don’t have a lot of time this morning to explain the technique, but you would be much better off using a MONO SUBMIX track instead of what you are trying to do, and make it work like *edit. Email me if you want more info.

    Good Luck,
    Steve

  • Steven L. gotz

    April 26, 2005 at 11:49 pm

    You can handle production audio as independent mono files. He doesn’t want them independant. He wants them both assigned to the same video clip to work with them all as a set. I am not sure why a nested sequence does not work for him.

    Steven
    Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 / After Effects 6.5 Pro https://www.stevengotz.com
    Learning Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 https://www.lynda.com
    Contributing Writer, PeachPit Press, Visual QuickPro Guide, Premiere Pro 1.5

  • Peter Corbett

    April 27, 2005 at 12:37 am

    The problem is Steve that if you create a new sequence (mono), when you import the new sequence back in to the original sequence, you only have one single mixed mono track. Even worse than the original problem. To get both of the mono tracks back in to the original sequence you have to create a Stereo sub-sequence, and the same problem exists. You can’t apply filters to left or right independently to the imported sub-sequence or adjust levels on either the left or right channel.

    Peter Corbett
    Powerhouse Productions
    Australia

  • Pat Mcgowan

    April 27, 2005 at 1:40 pm

    I’m confused. Let’s say I have a source tape with CH1 Lavalier and CH2 Boom. Are you saying that you cannot treat these as independent mono sources in PPro like you would in any other NLE?

  • Peter Corbett

    April 27, 2005 at 9:27 pm

    At the moment Pat, There is a simple command to breakout stereo-to-mono in the PPro preject window. This command creates a “new” video track and two mono tracks. These can be then be applied to the timeline and edited independently. You can group the three tracks to act as one and lock them to each other. You can razor the clip, but have to use ALT-left mouse click to select each track to do editing (if that makes sense). Other people use sub-mixes and sub sequences, but it overall it IS a P-in-the-A with the current version.

    Peter Corbett
    Powerhouse Productions
    Australia

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