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John Rofrano
January 25, 2011 at 2:57 am[Jeff Schroeder] “The temp file is the final output, when it is done it is renamed to [whatever].mov”
I wish this was the case but it’s not what we are observing (I’ve been helping Roger). If you render an Uncompressed QuickTime file with Vegas, it will make a filename.mov.tmp file the size of the render (e.g., 26GB for a 2 minute HD clip) and then when the rendering gets to about 56%, it starts copying that file over to filename.mov. You can watch the two files if you open Windows Explorer. So it copies the 26GB file to another 26GB file on the same drive requiring 52GB of space and a lot of head thrashing in the process. Multiply this by a 30 minute TV show and you’ll need 900GB of free space to make an uncompress QT file. Roger is rendering to an empty 1.5TB disc so it should fit but he’s getting an error that says Vegas cannot create the file. So he’s rendering in smaller sections but the errors remain. It is extremely frustrating!
~jr
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Al Bergstein
January 25, 2011 at 7:26 amWould transcoding this MOV file help? You seem to be saying it’s an ‘uncompressed’ Quicktime file inside a MOV wrapper? What kind of camera shoots that? Red?
Alf
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John Rofrano
January 25, 2011 at 12:10 pm[Alf Hanna] “You seem to be saying it’s an ‘uncompressed’ Quicktime file inside a MOV wrapper? What kind of camera shoots that? Red?”
No camera. This is for submission for broadcast and the broadcast industry has standardized on the Mac platform. If you don’t give them a QuickTime file they don’t know what to do with it. Unfortunately they want Apple ProPres 422 which a PC cannot produce and so they’ll take uncompressed as an alternative. This is overkill and places undo burden on PC users but they call the shots so what are you going to do.
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Roger Bansemer
January 25, 2011 at 3:04 pmSince I can’t watch a 50 gig mov file I created in Vegas on my computer as it’s too jerky, I have been rendering the .mov file to an m2t simply to check and see if the .mov file has glitches. However, the m2t file takes forever to render and I’m short of time.
Can you suggest another file format that I can render the .mov file to other than an m2t which will render quicker and still give me the information I need to see if there are black flashes, etc.
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Al Bergstein
January 26, 2011 at 3:42 amI guess I don’t understand. I have Vegas installed, and also *paid* for Quicktime Pro,which is inexpensive. I now have, on VEGAS, the ability to output to Quicktime MOV format. Why does that not work? Also, I can render to XDCAM EX which I understand can be used directly with no rendering in FCP. (I’m looking at it now under the FCP Audio Video Settings, Sequence preset CHOOSE XDCAM EX).
It seems to me that if you found an FCP person (like me) in your area, and simply asked them to take your footage and convert it to Prores and out put it for you, that they should take it, and it shouldn’t cost much. Heck, If you were in my area, I’d do it for $100! That would seem more than fair for my ability to have a computer and know how to do it. To buy a dinner for the time to rerender something which would take actually 15 minutes to do, and maybe a few hours of electricity while you have a beer with me and shoot the s****, seems like a good deal.
Or am I missing something?
Alf
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Al Bergstein
January 26, 2011 at 3:47 amSorry, I didn’t reread the earlier threads. Yes, it’s odd that it’s not working with a 1TB drive, maybe a limitation of the software? Have you tried talking directly to the Sony development teams (John, I assume you have). Would the XDCAM EX output work? If you want to try this with me, my wife’s with her kids this weekend, and I would be willing to see if I can make it fly. We could transfer over the internet, though I only have DSL (sigh).
Alf
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John Rofrano
January 26, 2011 at 4:54 pm[Alf Hanna] “It seems to me that if you found an FCP person (like me) in your area, and simply asked them to take your footage and convert it to Prores and out put it for you, that they should take it, and it shouldn’t cost much. Heck, If you were in my area, I’d do it for $100! That would seem more than fair for my ability to have a computer and know how to do it. “
We have considered something very similar. The post house that is creating the HDCAM tape will only accept ProRes or Uncompressed. They will charge an extra $400 per tape for any other format. At $400 per show for 13 shows that’s $5,200! We could buy a killer Mac Pro for that kind of money… heck… for the cost of only 5 shows ($2,000) we could buy a MacBook Pro for $1200 and FCP Studio for $800 and make our own ProRes files. Even at your $100 per show offer it would cost us $1300 and at that rate, it may be better to acknowledge that if you want to deal with the Broadcast industry, you must own a Mac and just buy one. So this is certainly one of our considerations.
~jr
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