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John-michael Seng-wheeler
November 11, 2011 at 9:14 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “Per channel. So, it’s 20 Gb total throughput, as far as I understand it anyway.”
yes and no. Yes, it is technically sending 20 Gb total each way, but you can’t use all of that for any one use.
Thunderbolt had Display Port and PCIe in the same cable, but they’re two separate systems. You can’t have anymore then 10Gb of each. So calling it 20Gb is incorrect cause if I want to send data X from point A to B, 10Gb is how fast it’ll get there. There’s no way for it to use both channels.
At least that’s my understanding of the connection.
There is the possibility that PCIe over both channels would be possibile, but in that setup, there would be no Display Port signal.
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Bret Williams
November 12, 2011 at 5:06 amGoing to guess that Ive told them not to bother or turned it down. Offering the package though isn’t a sign of weakness. It shows that they believe the whole team is valuable and that it wasn’t just Jobs. Its a win win. Shows they have faith in their team and value them and rewards and keeps them.
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Jacob Kerns
November 12, 2011 at 7:40 amWow everyone that afraid of Windows? I made the switch and its been smooth.
Biggest plus is the cost.Thunderbolt isn’t Apple only its coming to PC it’s called lightpeak. SONY and Asus have announced their releasing it.
Also if you follow TonyMac and build a PC from Asus parts Lion installs without issue and even updates without issue.
Windows is the last thing to worry about in the switch. Get a good Asus mono and videocard along with quality ram the system will be fast and stable. I’ve been happy with windows 7.
Also for the record since no one can read about Windows 8 the metro interface is totally optional! I’m running beta in VMware and its runs just like Win7’s.
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Chris Harlan
November 12, 2011 at 8:39 am[Bret Williams] “Going to guess that Ive told them not to bother or turned it down.”
Sounds a better guess than many. I’ve heard quite a few rumors that he wants to leave.
[Bret Williams] “Offering the package though isn’t a sign of weakness. “
I don’t think of it as weakness one way or the other.
[Bret Williams] “It shows that they believe the whole team is valuable and that it wasn’t just Jobs. “
I’m sure the whole team is valuable, but in terms of future product, I don’t think the second item you mention is an assumption you can easily make, especially with Ive potentially going. And the stock options DO vest in a pattern that compliments the coming four years of products already in the development pipeline that Apple has been talking up. The folks getting the options are the folks responsible for maintaing/delivering the products in the pipeline. The rather bold options incentive–with full vestment in little more than four years– suggests the possibility that the focus is on the short term profitability with less concern for longevity. If that’s the case, my guess is the Mac Pro is probably toast, even though I think it is an important asset to the osx/ios eco system–important enough that it should be produced at a marginal loss, if necessary.
But hey, its all tea leaves.
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Seth Burke
November 12, 2011 at 7:41 pmFrom what I understand, other than Thunderbolt, Apple does offer custom built Mac Pros.
Yes, at a higher price, but if people really wanted an updated Mac Pro Tower with the latest i7 chip, graphics card, etc. you can purchase one using their “Business” store.
I called the customer service and they referred me to their business line and yes, they actually have builders that will customize the Mac Pro to specs that are not found on the online store.
I never did it because it was way too expensive for just me, but if you own a business, it might be worth looking into. There’s also leasing as well: If you’re in limbo and are waiting till next year for something to happen, but you need a Mac now, it’ll be cheaper to lease a Mac instead of buying it.
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Kevin Patrick
November 13, 2011 at 11:47 am[Seth Burke] “people really wanted an updated Mac Pro Tower with the latest i7 chip, graphics card, etc. you can purchase one using their “Business” store”
You can? I never heard that from Apple’s business representatives.
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Chris Harlan
November 13, 2011 at 4:38 pm[Kevin Patrick] “[Seth Burke] “people really wanted an updated Mac Pro Tower with the latest i7 chip, graphics card, etc. you can purchase one using their “Business” store”
You can? I never heard that from Apple’s business representatives.
“Wouldn’t that require a different motherboard? I find that a little far-fetched.
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Walter Soyka
November 13, 2011 at 4:54 pm[Chris Harlan] “Wouldn’t that require a different motherboard? I find that a little far-fetched.”
It would, and it is.
Maybe you can get an Apple store to install an NVIDIA Quadro 4000 for you, but I can’t imagine there’d be many extra CTO options beyond that.
Walter Soyka
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Walter Soyka
November 13, 2011 at 5:48 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “Most everything hardware wise is cross platform, and you can even by Episode to encode ProRes on Windows these days.”
Unfortunately, you can only encode ProRes on Windows if you are running Episode Engine on Windows Server 2008. Apple has so far declined to license ProRes for desktop-based encoders on Windows.
If you’re not a facility with other needs that Telestream’s high-end solutions fill, but you do want to run Windows and deliver ProRes, it’s a lot cheaper to buy a Mac that does nothing but encode ProRes.
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Jeremy Garchow
November 13, 2011 at 6:44 pm[Walter Soyka] “If you’re not a facility with other needs that Telestream’s high-end solutions fill, but you do want to run Windows and deliver ProRes, it’s a lot cheaper to buy a Mac that does nothing but encode ProRes.”
But of course. I’m just saying, if you need it, it’s there. There’s been a lot of talk of mass exodus to Windows since the FCPX cooties have apparently started ideas of checking in to the Ellis Island of Microsoft for greater opportunities.
That’s all.
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