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  • Does changes in Color apply media files?

    Posted by Ina Clausen on March 4, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    Very short: I have been experimenting with Color that I am not very familiar with. Stupid idea.
    I send my fcp project to color, did some changes and rendered. Send back to fcp.
    Now it seems I cant get rid of the changes again even when I load previous timelines.
    So my question is:
    Do changes in Color affect the mediafiles?
    Will I have to delete the media files, import them again and reconnect to my fcp project?

    Thanks.

    Ina Clausen
    Videojournalist (VJ)
    LeadIT ApS
    Odense, Denmark

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  • Rob Grauert

    March 4, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    I’m pretty sure Color exports brand new clips when you render. It doesn’t change your original media. Is that what you’re asking?

    Your original clips should still be available in your browser window.

    Also, before sending to Color, I duplicate my timeline and prepare it for Color. So somewhere in your workflow, you should have a timeline that stands as it did before you decided to use Color.

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  • Paul Jay

    March 4, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    Just open an Final Cut Autosave version from your project right from before you sended to Color.
    But Color always creates a new Sequence ( from Color ) when sending back to FCP

  • Chris Wiggles

    March 4, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    Color renders entirely new files, and gives you an entirely new sequence linked to the new files that are rendered out from Color. All your original media files are still there and unaffected. You should be able to open the old sequence, the one that doesn’t say ‘from Color’ without any problem.

    If for some reason there is an issue, you can simply relink that media to the original media which is all in the same place you left it originally.

    By the way, you can set where the rendered Color files are being saved and open those clips directly, or link to them or whatever as you please.

    Regards,
    Chris

  • Walter Biscardi

    March 5, 2011 at 3:32 am

    We also have an Apple Color forum here on the Cow.

    As others have noted Color creates entirely new files leaving all of your original FCP media files intact. While your new (from Color) timeline shows the original file names in the timeline, a check of the Item Properties of any clip will show you that their real names are something like 1_g1.mov and so on. Color simply names each clip by their order number in the timeline.

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  • Ina Clausen

    March 7, 2011 at 8:07 am

    Thanks for the reassuring answers. I did consider posting in the color forum, but my question relates more to how FCP manages the color material. At least it does now.
    My problem is this.

    Final Cut studio 7
    Sequence settings
    29.97 frms
    1920×1080 square pxls
    JPEG photo codec

    When I send to color, corrected and send it all back I tried exporting the – old non-colored – project as a quicktime movie with the original sequence settings.
    In the exported film it seems the changes I made in color apply to the clips but NOT my transitions – even though the exported project was from a timeline created prior to exporting to color.
    In the beginning of the 1 minute coorporate film there are some weather shots with ordinary cross dissolve transitions between them. So I would see the first weather shot in the corrected version and as soon as the transition started the clip would go back to the non-corrected media. At the end of the transition the new clip would change from original media to the corrected media. I just dont get how this can happen when this is the original timeline – the one from before I even send it to color.

    I then tried exporting the film using quicktime conversion, H264 codec, 1920×1080 pxls, 25 frms (Project is to be delivered in 25 frms) and this film was OK – no problems.

    Im confused as to what is going on and why I cant export the movie with the original settings?

    Thanks for the answers so far.

    Ina Clausen
    Videojournalist (VJ)
    LeadIT ApS
    Odense, Denmark

  • Michael Gissing

    March 7, 2011 at 8:21 am

    Ina, I assume you are playing the ‘sent from Color’ sequence. Did you render your files in Color with sufficient handles to enable dissolves and transitions?

    If not, then maybe FCP is using original media during transitions, not the new Color render files.

  • Ina Clausen

    March 7, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Yes it seems like it uses the color material for the clips but not for the transitions. But the problem is it shouldn’t be using them at all since the sequence I exported was from BEFORE I sent it to color. That is what I don’t understand. I hope I am making sense here..
    And then the other mystery: Why does it only seem to use the color material when I export using original sequence settings but NOT when I use convertion?
    As for rendering handles then it is very possible that I didn’t render the transitions properly in color. Where do I set the handles for renders? Thanks.

    Ina Clausen
    Videojournalist (VJ)
    LeadIT ApS
    Odense, Denmark

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