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Does anyone pay?
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Pilot for a TV show? IF they want decent people, they’d better pay. Otherwise the only people they’ll get are people who need it for their reel. Need it for “credit” to make their resumes look better.
People’s passion projects…short films…documentaries. Sure, you might get other people to pitch in to help…who believe in the project and want to see it made. But a TV show pitch? No, you’d better pay. About 10% of the pilots made ever get picked up…not good odds for ever seeing the money on that. Besides, most if not all of those are paid for by the network. Some production companies have “development departments” with budgets…money taken from other projects in order to pay for pitch reels or pilots to hunt down future work. Smart companies do that, and get good talent, to make the project they are pitching look good. People who spec pilots get sub par talent, and chances are they won’t get picked up.
Production services for free? Like a corporate video or commercial? Training video? Never. Laughable. Barter? Sure…I’ve done that. Trade in services or in equipment. Win/win….if you both need what the other is offering.
Shane
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In 1993 I was asked by an up and coming documentarian if I wanted to go into the hood and film in the housing projects every weekend for the next year, no money but they hoped it would amount to something. Shoot some basketball games too. I thought about it for one second and said, “No.”
The project turned out to be Hoop Dreams.
Ned Miller
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[Mark Suszko] “What’s the most bizarre trade for editing services anybody’s ever done, I wonder?”
I’ve been offered drugs (legal and illegal), numerology and palm reading, a healing touch session, drugs again, and admission to a club.
For the record, I did accept the palm reading.
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I get every one of those except LEGAL drugs. What legal drugs would they think would entice you to edit for free? Oxy? Proactiv? Or was it quantity, like an entire tractor trailer of Chewable Flintstones?
Tim Wilson
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I meant controlled substances that (I believe) were obtained legally. Vicodin and Percocet. You know, the good stuff.
No thanks, I don’t want your sweaty old hydrocodone pill you stole from your grandma’s medicine cabinet that may be a roofie instead.
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[Kylee Wall] “No thanks, I don’t want your sweaty old hydrocodone pill you stole from your grandma’s medicine cabinet that may be a roofie instead.”
If they were bartering “do this edit for me and I’ll put this pill in your drink,” yeah, you should probably skip that one.
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[Tim Wilson] “If they were bartering “do this edit for me and I’ll put this pill in your drink,” yeah, you should probably skip that one.”
Where would I be without the sage advice found in this forum?
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OTOH, it might explain projects like this one…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P2jn_lxrrPg
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I had a small nonprofit client who asked me to help them out with a change to one of their projects, as they had no cash-flow for a couple months. I did it mostly out of the goodness of my heart. Found a package on the front doorstep to the building the next day. Brownies! Score!
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That is without a doubt one of the coolest, best produced you tube videos I have ever seen!
BRAVO!!!!
That someone puts such time, effort, creativity and humor into a project that has no commercial potential is amazing. Again, BRAVO!!! (with standing ovation!)A picture is only as good as the glass it comes through. And the person using the camera has something to do with it too.
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