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Do Magix care?
Posted by Ned Cordery on April 10, 2017 at 6:02 pmI have used a variety of NLE software from Edit DV through Final Cut; a side visit to Avid and with Vegas Pro since v12. there is a new build, 244 for v14 and it is a secret that you may stumble upon! Magix have not made it easy to find and have not notified their user base.
Perhaps its me but why is the UHD “template” only 24 p? I shoot 30 p as US TV is a 30 p medium. Maybe I am missing something.
As the choices of non-subscription software have shrunk Vegas is our last hope. Do Magix care?
ned c
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Graham Bernard
April 10, 2017 at 6:54 pm[Ned Cordery] “I shoot 30 p as US TV is a 30 p medium. “
Can’t you make your own template?
* Grazie
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Ned Cordery
April 10, 2017 at 7:24 pmYes a “custom” template can be created for UHD but it is 29..97 fps. Are we still creating drop frame shots in Progressive scan?
ned c
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Graham Bernard
April 10, 2017 at 7:40 pm[Ned Cordery] “Are we still creating drop frame shots in Progressive scan?”
I don’t know what that means.
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Marco Baer
April 11, 2017 at 9:03 amYou didn’t tell us which render codec you selected, e.g. when I select MainConcept AVC I can type 30 fps while using UHD frame size and then save this UHD 30p template.
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Ned Cordery
April 11, 2017 at 7:22 pmThis was not rendering but loading camera clips for an edit. However; some detailed research suggests that although we read 30 fps in our camera manuals and settings we are actually recording at 29.97 and this matches the “template” for UHD in Vegas.
Part 2 of my comments still apply; Magix are terrible communicators when it comes to informing their user base of new builds. See the volume of communication coming from Adobe and Avid.
Ned Cordery
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Marco Baer
April 11, 2017 at 9:02 pmSame is for the project setting templates. For any frame size up to 4k you can set the fps to any value between 0,050 to 120,000 fps and save it as custom preset.
Updates are communicated via the “News” section of the official Vegas Creative Software forum. That’s been made for build 244 and today for build 252. Also it is planned to get update information via the Vegas Pro help menu soon.
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Mark Wilson
April 12, 2017 at 10:24 pmPart 1 – lots and lots of templates for almost every deliverable format. Plus you can easily make your own as others have said.
Part2 – Have to disagree with you there. The latest builds are very minor updates that (usually) affect very few users. They are working on using the “net notify” feature of Vegas (and other ex Sony programs) but it appears to be a little inconsistent at present. In the meanwhile, if you have a problem that you think might be fixed by a recent build you just need to look in the NEWS tab of the Vegas (magix) forum
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/vegas-pro-forum/
Personally, I think Vegas and Magix communications are improving all the time. 🙂
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John Rofrano
April 14, 2017 at 7:46 pm[Ned Cordery] “Yes a “custom” template can be created for UHD but it is 29..97 fps. Are we still creating drop frame shots in Progressive scan?”
The frame rate of 29.97 has nothing to do with Drop Frame vs Non-Drop Frame, nor does it have anything to do with Progressive vs Interlaced.
29.97 fps is the frame rate of NTSC color video. Drop frame and non-drop frame are two methods of keeping timecode. NTSC can use either drop frame or non-drop frame timecode. So regardless of whether you are counting timecode in drop frame or non-drop frame, the video is still running at 29.97 fps. The term “30p” comes from people being lazy and not wanting to accurately state 29.97p but that is the actual frame rate of what is referred to as “30p”. Likewise “60p” is 59.94 fps (not 60.0). It’s just easier to say but it’s inaccurate.
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Stephen Crye
April 14, 2017 at 10:23 pmMarco, I paid for Vegas 14, but I can’t for the life of me find the link to download the latest builds.
Is it possible to download the full build, or is it only distributed via the stubby 4 MB installer? I hate not having the full standalone installer, because my editing computer is not normally connected to the internet.
Thanks,
Steve
Win7 Pro X64 on Dell T7500, MultiTB SATA, 12GB RAM, nVidia Quadro 2000, Vegas 12, 11, 10, 9 DVDA 6.0 & 5.2(build 135) Sony HDR-CX550V, Panasonic GH3 with LUMIX G X VARIO 12-35mm / F2.8 ASPH, LUMIX G X VARIO 35-100mm / F2.8
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Ned Cordery
April 14, 2017 at 10:27 pmThanks for the explanation. I came here from PAL land and assume these odd frame rates are a remnant of some long past requirement. I am a happy user of Vegas Pro 14, but still feel they need to communicate directly with their users rather than on their forum. End of rant.
Thanks to all for the postings
Ned Cordery
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