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  • Do I really need to ZERO ALL DATA?

    Posted by Josh Evans on March 21, 2009 at 5:02 am

    Every few months, I have been in the habit of Erasing my entire computer, zero all date, reinstall system, FC, etc.

    This takes a whole day, so time consuming, but afterwards my computer and FCP work like new.

    Is there any other way to get this done though? I mean, I repair permissions once a week, but that doesnt seem to get the same result. Is there some sort of program i can download to clean up my computer and kill glitches in the system etc.??

    Thanks for any help.

    David Bogie replied 17 years, 1 month ago 8 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Russell Lasson

    March 21, 2009 at 5:10 am

    [Josh Evans] “Is there some sort of program i can download to clean up my computer and kill glitches in the system etc.?? “

    You could try using Time Machine and then whenever you want to go back to how your system was after a fresh install, it will let you revert back.

    You could also make a fresh install on one partition, then just use carbon copy cloner to clone the drive over to the partition you use on a regular basis. This would just be a one click overnight thing.

    -Russ

    Russell Lasson
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  • Zane Barker

    March 21, 2009 at 5:20 am

    [Russell Lasson] “You could try using Time Machine and then whenever you want to go back to how your system was after a fresh install, it will let you revert back. “

    Time Machine is great for data files and some applications, but for pro apps like the FCS that install components into the OS itself it does not do to well because Time Machine does not back up system file. So when you restore from a Time Machine backup FCP is probably going to act funny because the computer is now missing the components that FCS put into the system files.

    [Russell Lasson] “You could also make a fresh install on one partition, then just use carbon copy cloner to clone the drive over to the partition you use on a regular basis. This would just be a one click overnight thing. “

    PERFECT idea. And depending the size of your system drive it will probably only take a couple of hours to clone from the master.

    Also if by zero all data you are referring to having disk utility actually wright 0’s over all the old data, that is not necessary at all, plus it takes forever to do.

    There are no “technical solutions” to your “artistic problems”.
    Don’t let technology get in the way of your creativity!

  • Russell Lasson

    March 21, 2009 at 5:23 am

    [Zane Barker] “Time Machine is great for data files and some applications, but for pro apps like the FCS that install components into the OS itself it does not do to well “

    That’s a great point Zane. Scratch the Time Machine option.

    -Russ

    Russell Lasson
    Universal Post
    Ridgeline Digital Cinema Mastering
    Salt Lake City, UT

  • Alexander Kallas

    March 21, 2009 at 5:25 am

    DiskWarrior will rebuild your directories

    Cheers
    Alexander

  • Rafael Amador

    March 21, 2009 at 6:35 am

    Hi Johs,
    I’m with Alexander.
    What you need is any of the applications that are able to optimize your system and HDs.
    DiskWarrior, TechTolos or Driver Wizard will make your life easier.
    Run it every two weeks or so and forget about hangs, slow downs and funny behaves.
    Rafael

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  • Jason Levy

    March 21, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    There is no reason to zero all data. That is an complete waste of time.

  • Tom Wolsky

    March 21, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Very true if you’re erasing a Mac OS Extended drive.

    All the best,

    Tom

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  • David Bogie

    March 22, 2009 at 5:36 pm

    [Josh Evans] “Every few months, I have been in the habit of Erasing my entire computer, zero all date, reinstall system, FC, etc.

    This practice I call Scorched Earth” receives real world support and real world scorn around here. Back in the olden days I’d o this every year or so. Now I don’t even bother with new revs of the OS or major applications. It really is not necessary but it may, in fact, prevent something. The problem is there is no direct causal relationship that can be established. If I have a spontaneous problem with my system there is no way to know if it was caused by my not reformatting drive two years ago. Conversely, Scorched Earthers do not run totally error-free systems or, if they do, there’s no real way to determine that their erase-install is the sole prophylaxis. Further, the time spent ( or wasted) doing all of this preventive maintenance is not justified if you only have to do it once in the event of a major calamity.

    Of far more value is running a solid backup strategy.

    bogiesan

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