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  • Natalia Pie

    May 5, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    That’s why Sony Vegas Pro 13 is unable to convert the Apple Pro Ress to DNxHD.

    Are there a programs with a license to convert the Apple Pro Ress to DNxHD?

  • John Rofrano

    May 5, 2015 at 7:59 pm

    [Natalia Pie] “Are there a programs with a license to convert the Apple Pro Ress to DNxHD?”

    You might try MPEG Streamclip. You’ll still need to install QuickTime and the Avid DNxHD codec.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Norman Black

    May 6, 2015 at 2:06 am

    Cliptoolz Convert should be able to do this as well. No need for Quicktime or Avid DNxHD codec install.

    https://hdcinematics.com/convert-V2.html

  • Natalia Pie

    May 6, 2015 at 9:46 am

    Thank you

    Unfortunately, These programs MPEG Streamclip and ClipToolz Convert V2 does not have a license for codecs 🙁

    The free ffmpeg libraries That infringe patents MPEG.LA

    MPEG.LA told me that if he wants to convert only software licensed from MPEG.LA

    I’m looking for a program That converts without ffmpeg library

  • John Rofrano

    May 6, 2015 at 10:58 am

    [Natalia Pie] “I’m looking for a program That converts without ffmpeg library”

    Take a look at Blackmagic Video Converter. It is listed as “Blackmagic Vdieo Converter for Mac and Windows-transcode DNxHD and ProRes 422 files“. Seems to be exactly what you are looking for.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Natalia Pie

    May 6, 2015 at 12:23 pm

    Yet I found another way. There is also a free program of the Da Vinci Resolve Lite.

    The program can read the Apple Pro Ress and save as DNxHD. A little hard it is. BlackMagicDesign has license of Avid 🙂

    https://www.avid.com/US/resources/dnxhd-codec-licensees

  • Russ Froze

    May 6, 2015 at 2:27 pm

    Ok this discussion is really silly. Avid created this codec so as to avoid issues with Apple. So there would be a codec that Avid can use across win or Mac. In the early days of NLE Avid used to transcode everything into DNX allowing for a consistent user experience and allow for uniform workflow scaling and consistency in a production environment. It is in Avids best interest to distribute the codec far and wide and to encourage the use of the codec. The idea of Avid chasing you around for use of an unlicensed distribution is in a word ludacris. The intent of the licence is to prevent software creators from packaging the codec with their nle without paying royalties to the creators of the codec. These licences are not aimed at the end user of NLE software and you are free to use them for the software developer has made payment on your behalf.

    My version of DNxHD is found in the .mov section and I have been using it as needed for some time. Also download and instal from blackmagic design a piece of software named Desktop video which is free to use as needed for BMD has paid for the licence. Once again you will find a codec named Blackmagic 10 bit, 8 bit and RGB 10 bit that is identical to Prores and will allow you to read Prores files once quicktime is installed. There really is no need to do a round trip to Resolve just to encode DNxHD or Prores unless there is need for speed for few render as quickly as Resolve can.
    Russ Froze

  • Natalia Pie

    May 6, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    Installed the program Da Vinci Resolve Lite and the contract I read something like that.

    1. Subject is payment of applicable license fees, Blackmagic Design Pty. Ltd. (“Blackmagic Design”) hereby grants to you a non-exclusive license to use this software product (the “Software”) and Accompanying documentation on the terms below. The Software May be used on a single system only, and May be copied for archival purposes, provided any copy must Contain all of the original Software’s proprietary notices.

    What kind of license fees? I do not understand. I’m not sure whether this program totally free

  • Norman Black

    May 6, 2015 at 5:06 pm

    [Natalia Pie] “The free ffmpeg libraries That infringe patents MPEG.LA

    MPEG.LA told me that if he wants to convert only software licensed from MPEG.LA”

    This is not accurate and I do not think you understand the situation fully. Are the the user FotoVideo on the Sony forums asking licensing questions like these? There are plenty of good answers to this given there.

    x264 is an open source GPL AVC/H.264 encoder does not need a license since they are not selling you can encoder for AVC. It is just source code. x264 is the AVC encoder used by all open source stuff. If x264 were infringing on any patents they (MPEG.LA) could certainly file a lawsuit to try and shut it down. They have not and they cannot. BTW sites like Youtube and Vimeo have used x264 for AVC encodes. They don’t pay a license since MPEG.LA exempted them a long time ago (free internet delivery site of AVC video).

    If you want to sell an AVC video over 12 minutes and you absolutely want to pay your 2 cents to MPEG.LA, then you can figure out how to do that on your own. MPEG.LA has not cared about small operators.

  • John Rofrano

    May 7, 2015 at 1:47 am

    [Russ Froze] “These licences are not aimed at the end user of NLE software and you are free to use them for the software developer has made payment on your behalf. “

    That’s been Natalia’s whole point. Sony has not licensed this codec so no one has paid the licensing fees. Does Avid specifically say that anyone can download their codec and use it for professional use? I couldn’t find any statement like that on their web site. So it’s not clear to me that Avid DNxHD is free for commercial use to everyone. If it is, Avid should make that clear on the download page.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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