Disappearing Patch Panel Sources

[Jerry Hofmann]

Got a screen shot?

Note that only the tracks included in the Sequence will show up on the right, and only the tracks that a Viewer clip has will show up on the left. so it’s possible to put a video only clip in the Viewer, and no audio patches will be on the left, etc..

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[Rob Chinn]

Jerry,

Thanks for the response. No, I didn’t get a screen shot. I’ll be back there again this coming Thursday, so I’ll get one then.

I understand what you’re saying. The only ones that were missing were the source side. I didn’t see every case where people said they didn’t have them, but at least 2 of the cases I saw had a video clip loaded in the viewer that definitely had audio, but there were no source side patch plugs, video or audio.

I’ll keep a closer eye on it this week, and I’ll be sure to grab a screen shot and let you know what I find.

Rob

[William Watts]

Rob,
This can happen if you patch source tracks to timeline tracks and then delete the relevant timeline tracks (if autopatching is not activated).
Try adding tracks to your timeline or turning on autopatching ?

Regards,
Will.

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[Tom Matthies]

Control Click in the gray area between the green “speaker” icon and the audio track indicators in the audio portion on the left of the timeline. You will get the option to “reset panel”. This should fix your missing patch source problem.
Tom

[Rob Chinn]

Tom,

Thanks for your reply. As stated in my original post, I tried resetting the patch panel, but it had no effect the multiple times I tried.

Rob

[Rob Chinn]

Will,

Thanks for your reply. I don’t think any tracks were deleted, as the people I was working with were newbies, but I suppose that it is a possibility. No one stated they had deleted a track, but I suppose that doesn’t mean they didn’t. It happened multiple times on multiple machines though, but….

I will check into it when I am there again on Thursday.

Rob

[Tom Wolsky]

The source patches are always controlled by the content of the viewer as Jeff said. I have never seen this not work. But if there is a glitch make sure you trash your preferences, repair permissions and reboot.

All the best,

Tom

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[Andy Mees]

you can force source patches to disappear by using the keyboard shortcuts and targeting a track number that doesn’t exist eg if you have just two video tracks then press F6 followed by 3 … and you can get it back by re-targeting an extant track eg F6, 1. Same goes for audio tracks (using F7 and F8). See if pressing F7, 1 and F8, 2 will recover these errant patches

[Carlos Borges]

I read this online, it may help you understand how the patch panel works and how it relates to the missing source buttons on Video and audio.

When a clip (the source) is opened into the Viewer, the Source controls in the Timeline update. These controls are basically a reflection of what’s in the Viewer. For instance, if you open a clip with only two audio tracks into the Viewer, you will see two audio Source controls in the left side of the Patch Panel, labeled a1 and a2. If you then open a video only clip into the Viewer, the Patch Panel will change. The two audio Source controls disappear and are replaced by a video Source control, labeled v1.

On the right side of the Patch Panel are the Destination controls. These controls represent the possible Timeline tracks where the clip in the Viewer can be placed. Before editing the clip into the sequence, Source controls can be moved up or down to different Destination controls, changing the track where the clip will be placed.

So the source side of the patch panel only reflects what you have opened in the viewer and how it will react to being added to the timeline once added. the patch panel decides where the relevant tracks are placed into the timeline.

Hope this clears it up for anyone else who may read this thread …. it helped me, I was just having the same issue. I spent about 10 minutes trying to find out why these things were disappearing. Now I know.

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[Marjorie Roswell]

This (pressing F7, 1 and F8, 2) worked for me. Thanks!