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Director is in another state…how can we connect him to our edit room?
Posted by Sithcommander on May 12, 2005 at 12:07 amWhat is the best way to work with a director in a remote location?
We are editing on FCP 4.5 and the director is in another state with a PC computer.
How can we set up a secure way to transmit our timeline/viewer so he can see our monitor and communicate with him in realtime?
Is there a relatively easy/cheap software (or minimal hardware) solution?
The quality of image is not a priority (we are at low res) he just needs to see what we are doing and be able to provide feedback to us.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Maybe there is another forum I should address this query to.
Thanks in advance.
Debe replied 20 years, 11 months ago 8 Members · 13 Replies -
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Walter Biscardi
May 12, 2005 at 2:09 amI use my iDisk account and continuously upload cuts to that for folks in other states. With Tiger, there was a demonstration of iChat A/V showing a two way chat with an FCP Canvas playing in real-time, but that was with 2 Macs. Nothing works in realtime with a PC.
Generally what I do with my clients is have conversations with them in iChat A/V (most of my clients have Macs) and we’ll chat via video conference, then I’ll upload quicktimes on my iDisk after compressing them in Sorenson Squeeze.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Bryce Whiteside
May 12, 2005 at 2:18 amYou have two issues here–FCP stream to iChat AV and then connection to iChat AV.
Mention of support of AIM and Jabber:
https://www.apple.com/macosx/features/ichat/Router configuration information:
https://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93208This is a year old article but it show you which direction you need to go in.
AIM Embraces Video Chat with the Mac
By Matt Hicks
February 5, 2004
https://tinyurl.com/au48kThe current AIM client is 5.9 ( https://www.aim.com/ )
From my research on just iChat AV to iChat AV FCP client supervised edit session it would go a little like this:
FCP Mac’s DV firewire port –> 2nd Mac (G4, G5, PowerBook, iBook) firewire port in –> iChat AV (AIM client) –> your router –> Internet –> his router –> AOL Instant Messenger on a PCWith introduction of H.264 in Tiger and QT7 this question has come up in Mac to Mac collaboration.
HTH,
BryceDon’t worry Mr. B. I have a cunning plan…
PowerBook 1.67 Ghz ATI 9700 128 MB 2 GB
Final Cut Pro HD
DVD Studio Pro 3
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Shane Ross
May 12, 2005 at 2:20 amI have, on occasion (twice now) played a cut thru iChat AV from my DSR-11 deck. A the same time I was on the phone with the producer (who was in Hawaii) who gave me notes.
But…again…both parties need a mac.
Most the time I do what Walter does…post my cut on my iDisk with TC for producers to view and give notes. Beats running a DVD over with every change….
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Andy Edwards
May 12, 2005 at 4:34 amHow much is this client worth to you 🙂
Spring for a:
$499 Mac mini
$150 Isite camera
$50 UPS or Fedex next day airHe can use his PC monitor and USB keyboard and mouse. Then stream your FCP timeline via Ichat.
You could also copy your low rez footage to firewire drives and send it to them with a copy of FCP. Then all you have to do is email the FCP project file and they can follow along with your updates.
Use whalemail to upload your Quicktime previews.
http://www.whalemail.com
Starts out at $7.95 a month for 100MB uploads.Just a couple ideas.
Andy
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Matthew Brunn
May 12, 2005 at 5:18 amOne person in my Mac User Group said he was using some trillium software on a PC and his iChat and the video works great. I’ll try an get more information for you. I’ve been trying with Messenger 5.5 for PC with iChat and still nada! They say it works!
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Matthew Brunn
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Sithcommander
May 12, 2005 at 6:28 pmThanks for your help.
Here’s the link: https://www.macmerc.com/articles/Mini_Media_Mac/275
This does not go all the way in setting up an FCP monitoring solution. This was just for an analog source (VHS tape). For a digital/Final Cut Pro signal, you do need two computers.
For this Mac to Mac remote review, 2 computers and 2 AtoD conversions are needed to transmit.
Computer 1:
– One computer with final cut pro > External video playback > firewire > DVcamera or deck (digital to analog conversion)
– from first deck, output analog to a second deck with analog input.
– from second deck, output via firewire into second computer.
Computer 2:
– in iChat preferences in the video pane, the “microphone” setting should automatically recognize whatever your “camera” is. The “camera” of course can be your actual miniDV camera or a deck etc.
– from your iChat buddy list, choose “video chat” with your desired buddy…if they don’t have a camera, then it will be a “one way video chat”.I tried remote review to a PC with AOL instant messenger with mixed success. The stream is choppy, lower res, and the image size is not scalable as far as I can tell.
Perhaps there is a workaround to the above method that is more simple, but the quality is very good.
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Bryce Whiteside
May 12, 2005 at 10:13 pmIt is my impression that you can go FCP Mac firewire out to –> 2nd Mac firewire input (probably a dual processor 1Ghz G4).
Then, under iChat AV on the second Mac select video input DV under preferences.
I am wondering if AIM 5.9 can’t handle the H.264 to well. You would have to have at least a 128 kbps to 384 kbps upload capacity I would think.
For broadband speed tests you can try:
https://www.dslreports.com/stestWhat is your ISP?
Thanks for the link.
Inquiring minds,
BrycePS You would think someone would have had an article or how-to tip more obviously placed on the web. My information was gleaned from bits and pieces.
Don’t worry Mr. B. I have a cunning plan…
PowerBook 1.67 Ghz ATI 9700 128 MB 2 GB
Final Cut Pro HD
DVD Studio Pro 3
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Bryce Whiteside
May 12, 2005 at 10:35 pmhttps://www.apple.com/hotnews/articles/2005/04/nab/gallery1.html
Inquiring minds…
BryceDon’t worry Mr. B. I have a cunning plan…
PowerBook 1.67 Ghz ATI 9700 128 MB 2 GB
Final Cut Pro HD
DVD Studio Pro 3
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Michael Horton
May 12, 2005 at 10:37 pmI got a fellow working on a tutuorial on this very thing right now. Biggest problem is the host needs to be a G5 with a fast connection, or so it seems. Powerbooks may not work.
Michael Horton
lafcpug
https://www.lafcpug.org
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