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Activity Forums Sony Cameras Direct Copying of SxS Media

  • Larry Young

    September 28, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Better when I have a DIT on set/location. Mostly I shoot (when shooting to flash cards) with PDW-700 or F800, HPX2700 and 3700 (Varicam’s) and F900’s so that is why I am asking all these questions.

    Also, I am a Firm believer in Seat belts – have been ever since hill climbing in a Jeep back in 1978 when I rolled and my four point belt saved me.

    Lawrence S. Young
    Best Shot Productions
    New England•New York•Colombia
    Email: lsyoung@megalink.net
    Link to Work: http://www.vimeo.com/lawrencesyoung

  • Larry Young

    September 28, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    Ian Corrected me – I was wrong – please see the above thread

    Lawrence S. Young
    Best Shot Productions
    New England•New York•Colombia
    Email: lsyoung@megalink.net
    Link to Work: http://www.vimeo.com/lawrencesyoung

  • Craig Seeman

    September 28, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    As noted in another post PMW-500 will allow MXF recording to SxS. My hope is that Sony incorporates that in future EX cameras. With XDCAM disc you can preserve the disc as a master so if a copy is bad you can go back to that.

    With memory cards, the clips are deleted/cards formatted for reuse. A bad copy is therefore potentially fatal. That’s way data integrity is paramount on the initial copy. What you put on your hard drive is essentially your master (which you should then backup).

    As SDHC prices fall some may consider shooting on and holding those as masters although good cards are still a higher cost per GB than an XDCAM disc. A good 32GB Sandisk Class 10 card can cost $200 whereas an 50GB XDCAM disc costs considerably less.

  • Ron Pestes

    September 29, 2010 at 12:43 am

    Hmmm, now I have a question about all this. I have just used XDCAM Transfer for all downloading, sending the files to two seperate drives. If one drive got an error it would seem so remote as to be rediculous that you could get two drive errors in a row as long as you download the cards directly and don’t just copy the first drive over to the second. If there was an error on both drives of the same file wouldn’t that mean the card had the problem and CRC would not have been able to save you? This method does save a huge amount of time and has never failed me. Also, what does CRC do if it finds an error? Thanks guys!

    Apple Certified Master Pro FCS 2
    Sony EX-3
    MacBook Pro

  • Rafael Amador

    September 29, 2010 at 1:15 am

    [Lawrence Young] “Is there more than one file I need to be aware of on the SxS card when copying to a Folder on a hard drive? Or is the a white paper that gives me a breakdown on the file structure of an SxS Card – if their isn’t a simple explanation.”
    You need the full folder structure.
    SONY have made that any change will be a headache.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Brent Dunn

    September 29, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    The Media browser also connects your media should you shoot long clips over 2 cards in the camera.

    Otherwise, you can just copy the entire BPAV folder into a labeled folder on you computer, then make a backup onto another drive or 2 or 3.

    Brent Dunn
    Owner / Director / Editor
    DunnRight Video.com
    Video Marketing Toolbox.net

    Sony EX-1, V1U
    Canon 5D Mark II
    Canon 7D
    Mac Pro Tower, Quad Core,
    with Final Cut Studio

    HP i7 Quad laptop
    Adobe CS-5 Production Suite

  • Michael Moser

    September 30, 2010 at 11:30 pm

    At the end of every shoot, I use ShotPut Pro to copy files to my back up hard drive and to the client’s media (usually a USB drive). After the transfer is complete-ShotPut Pro compares the files to make sure the copies are correct as it transfers-I pull the SxS card from my MacBook Pro and spot check both copies using EX Clip Browser. Before ShotPut and Clip Browser, I would open the files and “prove” that they worked in Final Cut. That was a pain. It just takes a few minutes to do a spot check as one would do with tape. That workflow has worked fine thus far. I have a 32Gig and 3 16 gig cards. I also have the SxS adapter with SDHC, but haven’t used them on pro shoots…I bring them along as back up in case I really go overboard shooting. So far I haven’t needed them.
    It’s been said here that sometimes invisible files may be copied if you just use drag and drop to get the BPAV folder on the drives, so this is a good seatbelt workflow so far.

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