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  • Dilemma: I need to mix 1080 HD 24p PAL + 50i 16:9 SD PAL footage?

    Posted by Richard Doyle on October 19, 2010 at 1:41 am

    Using Final Cut Pro 7. Outputting as an SD DVD using DVD Studio Pro.

    I have 1080 24p full HD shot with the Canon 7D. I need this on the same timeline as 50i 16:9 Canon XL2 SD footage.

    I know Final Cut adds a frame somewhere (I think it’s the 24p footage that it adds the frame to). Here’s what I’m thinking: could I possibly manually remove this extra frame myself?

    Or…is there a way of setting up the timeline so that I don’t have this problem? I’m going to convert the 7D footage to Pro Res LT. Could I convert the 50i footage into 24p Pro Res LT as well? Totally confused. Any help, suggestions, tips would be great. Cheers.

    Richard Doyle replied 15 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Michael Gissing

    October 19, 2010 at 3:46 am

    Mixed frame rates are a problem. You have to choose one for the sequence. You will need to use Compressor to change one of the frame rates to match the other. You didn’t say what the final DVD is going to be – PAL or NTSC

    24p is not PAL. The 7D is capable of shooting 25 which would have made you life much easier.

  • Richard Doyle

    October 19, 2010 at 9:46 am

    It’s going to be a PAL SD DVD. I shot 1080 24p with the 7D and it is PAL. I’m in Europe. What would you recommend?

  • Michael Gissing

    October 19, 2010 at 11:56 am

    [Richard Doyle] “I shot 1080 24p with the 7D and it is PAL”

    Sorry, but PAL frame rate is 25 not 24. I would recommend shooting everything at one frame rate. You will need to convert all the 24 frame footage to 25 with Compressor.

  • Peter Wiggins

    October 19, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    Sorry, but PAL is Phase Alternating Line which is a clever way of reducing colour phase errors in a composite video signal. There is even a version of PAL that runs at 30fps.

    I agree that it has been collapsed into a general meaning of an SD 50i signal though.

    Peter

  • Richard Doyle

    October 19, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    This is news to me. So I’ve shot NTSC? So what I have to do is convert NTSC (the 24p 7D footage) to 25p PAL? (or maybe 50i – same as the other footage?)

  • Richard Doyle

    October 19, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    So when convert the 24p 1080 footage to ? (25p or 50i?), won’t that add a frame that Final Cut would do automatically in the timeline if I started editing 24p in a 50i timeline?

  • Richard Doyle

    October 19, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    Michael Gissing: “Sorry, but PAL frame rate is 25 not 24. I would recommend shooting everything at one frame rate. You will need to convert all the 24 frame footage to 25 with Compressor.”

    Should I convert the 7D footage to Pro Res LT and then convert that in Compressor to 25p or 50i? Do you know of a quick tutorial that would show me how to do this? Thanks.

  • Richard Doyle

    October 19, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    Also, I’ve read elsewhere on Creative Cow that I should be conforming the 24p to 25p (or is it 50i) using Cinema Tools? Does Compressor not do the same thing?

  • Rafael Amador

    October 19, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    Just Conform (CinemaTools) the 24p to 25p, and drop it in the i50 sequence.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Richard Doyle

    October 19, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    Thanks. Just to be clear. I transcode the 7D 1080 24p footage to Pro Res LT, and then conform to 25p in Cinema Tools. I then set up an SD timeline suited for the 50i footage, and drop in the “conformed” 25p footage?

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