Digital Vision Nucoda

[Alexander Higgins]

There should also be a price base reason for each app, as well as facility integration, cost of operation, and cost of upgrades, up-keep etc..

I have had personal demo’s on every turnkey finishing/grading/coloring product there is, each has its benefits. Nudoca Fuse is awesome, but 70k to get into. Baselight is better for just grading and film prep, but 80k to get into. DaVinci HD for Mac is going to be about 20k to get into. SMOKE for MAC about 40k to get into.

My biggest problem is that I have been a SHAKE super user since about 1995, and jumped into NUKE about 5 years ago.

FUSE has some composting and keying capabilities that make it better than baselight for cleanup, quicky composites etc.. BUT I would much rather do it in NUKE, my toolset is 10 million times that of FUSE. YES FUSE has GPU acceleration, but when doing tricky composites, the GPU doesn’t help at all.. There is a benefit of having it all on the timeline, but as things get

Another problem is that I could do a lot of that which FUSE can do in SMOKE for less.

NUKE is going to have 5 release a year, while FUSE might have 1 release every 2 to 3 years.

There is no perfect app, perfect solution, or anything like that. If price was no issue, people wouldn’t even post things on this forum.

[Ben Wiliams]

What i heard is the Nucoda system uses CPU and GPU for calculation. Especially when calculating CPU intensive DVO effects like de-grain and dust removal, the CPU will be used quite fully. The floating points calculation of CPU is more accurate than GPU, so what I am told is the resulted images are even better than the DVNR. Another benefit of such combination is the software speed is not limited to hardware expansion such as you will have limitation in adding number of graphics card.

[Alexander Higgins]

I have watched the dust bust capabilities of NUCODA and it is very cool, but its kinda a NILL selling point in my opinion.

You have PFClean, and Correct DRS, and Foundry Furnace Plugins.

The only reason I even care to comment about all this is that when I have been in a situation where I have looked into buying a NUCODA product, the SALESMEN/CLOSERS would not shut up about its dust bust capabilities. I mean JESUS, i’m not going to buy a 200k system because it can remove dust and hairs. How often have I dealt with that? Maybe once?

If MGM opened their vault and gave me 4k LOG scans of their movie archive, yeah, it would be worth while purchase, but other than that.

I was also terribly annoyed by the salesmen knowing nothing about the industry or really what their product does. Engineers and Artists do NOT sell high end products or advertise their capabilities, Marketing and Sales people do. Anyway, gripe over.

[Bill Macomber]

Hey, guys-

Just wanted to chime in. I’m also considering a coloring system, and am having trouble making a decision. Maybe you guys have thoughts?

– While DaVinci seems to be the sexiest “new” system, I literally can’t get a sales rep on the phone here in LA. Very frustrating – I think their focus on the $1000 product is undermining people looking to invest more.

– Baselight seems to be the best alternative, with a big team here in California. For the broadcast clients we have, I think it will be a winner. Also, I’m interested in the Truelight solution for our indie film clients (to load up different libraries to simulate screening rooms, etc). Anybody have experience with that?

– I’d love to step up to a Pablo, but I don’t think our client list will support the expense.

– I’ve been ignoring Nucoda… I guess there’s another system I need to demo. Oy! It takes time!

Thanks guys

Bill

[Tanel Viksi]

Hi,

I think you just answered to your question. But what for you need the sales rep? If you are not after the linux-version, then just buy the software and use it. Make sure, that you read the tech requirements though before running it.

Nucoda is a bit different “animal”.. you need huge revenue to keep it profitable. Do your math.

http://www.filmpost.ee

[Bill Macomber]

Hi Tanel!

I’m actually looking to invest what the Nucoda Fuse would cost, around the $100k mark. So, the DaVinci I would get would be the Linux version.

It will be interested to see how the Resolve finally lands, but I’m not interested in being part of the initial roll out. The main thing we’re interested in is a bomb proof, realtime system – and you just can’t get that with an unproven system, or for less than high 5 figures imho.

Bill

[Peter Chamberlain]

DaVinci Resolve on Linux has been available for six years and V7.0 was just released. There are 100 Hollywood features graded on Resolve and many more worldwide. Its hardly new and the low purchase price has nothing to do with the quality or feature set. It’s an extremely powerful grading system.

The hardware required is tested in our lab and our certified distributors follow a defined configuration and installation process to ensure consistency and reliability. These specific systems have been shipping for a year already and the V7.0 is just the latest update which includes 25+ new features. Have a look at the new Colorists Reference Manual on our blackmagic-design.com/davinci/support and the new features are listed in Chapter 1. You should be able to grade 20+ nodes at HD in real time on a 4GPU system. Even the Mac system offers 8+ layers of HD in real time on a single processing GPU.

I am sure you can find a sales rep eager to help. The list of distributors for the Linux systems is available at https://www.blackmagic-design.com/davinci/distributors/
DaVinci Resolve for Mac is available from all BMD resellers.

Peter

[Bruno Munger]

Hi

The Nucoda FilmMaster & Fuse with all its strength and weaknesses (yes every system has some) is (i think) by far the best grading/finishing system out there. It is my opinion since i evaluated them all. I have worked building Color Grading Tools since 2000, i had plenty of times looking at competition, written countless competitive analysis and sat down and used them all. From Scratch, To Pablo, Baselight, Lustre, Resolve, Mistika, etc.. I made a career out of designing, managing, selling this type of tool.

Example:
Resolve has the best Color merge tool.
Scratch XML architecture is very powerful.
Pablo is the most Integrated (VFX + Grading, Conforming)
Mistika is leading for 3d fixes.
Lustre Integrates with Smoke/Flame better than anybody.
Baselight has the best Control Surface integration.

Anyone of the tools shines in some areas compared to others and is clearly weak in others.

That is the nature of the industry we are in. A very immature industry with lack of standardization.
I.e. What SDK are you on ? Are you rendering in GPU or CPU?

Where we shine is with our Avid Integration, High Dynamic Range Grading, Support a lot more File format I/O than most. Plus we have the best integrated grain/noise management tool and i think that our Control Panel integration is the one of the best in the industry.

However, anyone has to judge on their own. We think we have something worth your while. I swear we won’t only talk about dust busting.

Regards

Bruno Munger

Product Manager
Digital Vision
bruno.munger@digitalvision.se
https://digitalvision.tv/