Digibeta layback – hunh???

[Adam Taylor]

I forgot to add – i’m using a FCS2, G5 Quad, 4gb ram, Xserve raid, Kona 3 – 10 bit uncompressed sd pal.

Editor/Mixer
Character Options Ltd
Oldham, UK

[Jeremy Garchow]

Have you calibrated your tc offset with that deck?

[Adam Taylor]

I think so – i did it months ago (nearly a year) and nothing has changed. Same deck, same configuration and its worked perfectly up until today.

But as i said – the inpoint was bang on the correct frame (colour bars appear at 09.58.00.00 exactly as they should).

What i didn’t make clear is that i layed down the entire timeline in one single pass….so if the in point is correct, why are the two commercials a frame on tape late when they are perfect on the FCP timeline?

I am going to try a different timeline and see what happens…..

Editor/Mixer
Character Options Ltd
Oldham, UK

[Jeremy Garchow]

If you have updated your drivers in the last year or so, something might have changed. It’s an easy thing to do, so maybe start there and see what happens.

Jeremy

[The Edit doctor]

I used to find this in ASSEMBLE edits back with older Kona drivers. The first frame of bars which is at the right frame is what I just view as a stutter frame. The first frame and the second frame are the same but it’s bar and you can’t tell. So you go in at the right frame but the first frame is doubled.

I usually run bars and slate, STOP and then go back to see if this happened. I know I know.. but if it’s important… do it.

If you’re downconverting from HD to SD I notice a frame delay on our system for the converstion. One frame delayed.

I create DEVICE control settings for ASSEMBLE EDITS or DOWNCONVERT settings and use them appropriately. Calibrating variables is the key. After you’ve calibarated.. USE FCP RESCUE to save/BACK up those settings in case you trash your preferences down the road.

An immediate fix is to just use IN and OUT settings (change that in Mastering Settings as well) Set and IN and OUT point for the timeline BUT on the IN frame, right arrow +1 frame and then set the IN point. It’ll bring your program start back one frame for the ouput and then you can get back to work and do the fix/checking later when it’s calmer.

Are you KONA or DECKLINK?

Mike J. Nichols
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[Adam Taylor]

i think i may have sorted it.

One thing i did do earlier today was digitize in some footage from an HDV camcorder, so used one of the easy setups to switch to that configuration. This was in a totally separate project, but it might have caused some odd behaviour – i have given up trying to understand how seemingly unrelated areas of software can affect others!

Anyway, i re-set the frame offset on the device control and it seems to have sorted itself. Thanks Jeremy.

The odd thing is its now a frame further odd than it used to be…but at least its laying back on the right frames.

As for kit – its a Kona 3 card i use. Its running the latest kona drivers, and no i’m not doing any hd-sd downconverting. I think you might be right about the doubled up first frame Mike….like you say – theres no way to tell if thats what it is when theres no movement between frames.

another one to chalk up to experience!

regards
Adam

Editor/Mixer
Character Options Ltd
Oldham, UK