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  • Did I push Vegas too far?

    Posted by Rocky Robinson on February 4, 2008 at 4:07 am

    Hey guys, I don’t know what I did. Maybe I went too far.
    I’ve got a movie that runs about 1hour 20 min, shot in HDV 24p (canon A1) Most of the clips are intermediates, some are the straight HDV files.
    And there’s a 5.1 surround mix, with about 80 tracks-(Much higher count than normal for me, but its for scenes with the NR filter on them.) There’s different reverb on both FX1 and FX2, and a couple of insert busses too.
    I’m aiming for DVD and Blu-Ray output.
    I’ve spent the last two days mixing that darn thing and now when I go to render…Nothing happens. Vegas will sit and count the time elapsed and keep adding up to the time remaining, but the Task manager says Vegas isn’t even using the CPU, a 00%. I’ve even walked away from the machine for a few min to see if it starts up when I’m not looking, but doesn’t
    I’ve tried separating the audio and video into separate projects, and the video will render when I do that. But the audio does the same. I’ve tried copying and pasting the audio into a new project, and it works(renders), but loses all of my surround mix/and track inserted effects, and basically the last two days of work.
    Now normally when I work with DV files, I’ll edit scene by scene, render an AVI file for each scene, import them all into a big project file do the surround mix. This time I figured I’d copy the edited scenes from their individual files and past them into the big project file, so I can easily change my edits when the revisions come, and then do my surround mix, all in the big project file.
    Did I do something technically wrong? Is my workflow bassackwards? Or did Vegas drop a bit and partially corrupt my big final project file?
    Any hints on how to make this work? I’m afraid I’m going to have to take a couple of steps back in my process, break the tracks down and comp them into less tracks, and then re-mix the surround from scratch.

    Thanks if you can help!

    Rocky Robinson replied 18 years, 3 months ago 2 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Edward Troxel

    February 4, 2008 at 4:41 am

    Are you rendering to AC3 audio?

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

  • Rocky Robinson

    February 4, 2008 at 6:50 am

    Oh yeah AC3 it’s just the way to go for 5.1 for dvd. I tried 5.1 wav too, with same result.

    Right now I’ve been trying this workaround where I break the audio tracks up into 10 track segments, and render them out as 5.1 wavs. And that seemed to work, as long as I break up the movie into half-lengths…for some reason the whole thing gave an error message about not being able to fit or something.

    There were some individual tracks that showed the same original problem of rendering forever and ever but not having any CPU% in the task manager. On one batch of the 10 tracks, some tracks had no actual audio on certain tracks for that half of the movie. When I deleted those tracks, it rendered just fine. So I think something may’ve been corrupted.

    I’m now currently rendering the 5.1 wavs pasted back in sync with the video, and, so far, it’s apparently working.
    This should get me my first version onto DVD, but if I have to go and make changes to the mix, which is usually the case, I’ll have to either repeat this all again, or figure out a different workaround.

    I think on the next movie I’ll go back to my original method of cutting scenes in their own .veg, and rendering them out to intermediate .avis. And then bringing them into a master .veg file for the big mix.

    Or, maybe I should try cutting the actual scene .vegs in surround, and render intermediate .avis with the audio as separate 5.1wavs? Does .AVI do 5.1 surround too? Hmm..
    There’s just so many ways you can do something.
    Anyone have a favorite way of working in the 5.1 world?

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