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Did anyone lose their job after FCPX mistake ?
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Sorry if people felt that the posting was inappropriate. It is just a bit frustrating to see that everyone is switching away from FCP, and nothing has changed the last year. The betas are too little too late.
I agree that it is fanatastic that more people will be able to edit and it is democratizising the tool… but on the other hand. This was just what FCP 1.0 did, and it managed to get all the pros on board as well.
Anders
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[Anders Haavie] “Sorry if people felt that the posting was inappropriate. It is just a bit frustrating to see that everyone is switching away from FCP, and nothing has changed the last year. The betas are too little too late.
Not sure that “everyone” is switching, and FWIW, a lot has changed in the last year. X has gone from a scarily buggy feature incomplete app, to a very cool and quite usable piece of software. Apple blew the launch, and a lot of people haven’t really tried X since it came out. It’s way better now.
[Anders Haavie] I agree that it is fanatastic that more people will be able to edit and it is democratizising the tool… but on the other hand. This was just what FCP 1.0 did, and it managed to get all the pros on board as well.
“FCP 1.0 didn’t get the pro’s on board, most of ’em were making similar comments to what we’re hearing now. “Pros” didn’t really get on board ’til version 2 or 3. Let’s see where X is in 2 years. 🙂
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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
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Sorry Anders, but I don’t know what you are talking about. I am finishing day by day for one of the biggest Pharma companies in the world corporate videos and make a living out of that. I used since 2000 FCP legacy for this business and since one year I am on FCP X. It has a fantastic keyer, if needed, I can create fast and with a very good quality together with motion stunning effects for my clients. All in budget and time. I can even edit in tracks and forget the magnetic timeline if needed. So, maybe it is not the tool for your business, but please don’t call it not professional. With FCP X I have a faster turnaround on many jobs compared to FCP or PP.
That’s just my experience. But we pros are facing a difficult future with a lot of opportunities and with the need to change and refresh our skills often. But we have some good tools at hand . FCP X is one.Michael Hoefler
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I am quite sure FCP X can hold up in a one-man workgroup. I am talking big productionhouse (from 6 editingsuites and up on a SAN). Don’t get me wrong. I love that more people get tools that make them edit more efficient, and it is great that anyone can make a movie. But please don’t forget that there are differences between good editors and bad editors, and to be a good editor you need a good tool
Anders
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[Anders Haavie] ” I am talking big productionhouse (from 6 editingsuites and up on a SAN).”
If that is your only concern with FCPX, then you might be in for a treat soon, because everything in X´s structure points to exactly that.
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[Anders Haavie] ” it is democratizising the tool… “
Wrong word. Should be “popularizing”.
jPo
“Learned my lesson” and confining responses to twits…. or is that tweets… or???? kids these daze.
“I always pass on free advice — its never of any use to me” Oscar Wilde.
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I totally understand your desire to view the overall industry through the lens of the pro suite dominant past. For decades that was the only path to high quality..
But that’s been changing for a long time now.
The week Walter Murch moved to “home editing” – the flight where some agency editor logged (or possibly cut) al spot on a cross country flight – tech advances from FireWire to thunderbolt – each of these and a lot more have made the suite approach less and less necessary and more and more optional.
Viewed in sensible terms, X is just another stage on the long evolutionary chain in editing.
Everything in every other part of the production process has been transformed by technology advances.
If you don’t prefer to use X, that’s fine. But what’s the point of expending effort looking for “long after the fact” support for your choice not to learn or adopt it? Isn’t your workflow better served by concentrating on whatever tool you’ve selected?
You won’t change the opinions of those of us using X daily, because we’re increasingly satisfied with our decisions to learn it.
I’m sorry that you are not and so have to keep coming back to reinforce yourself on the wisdom of your decisions to dismiss it.
Good fortune on your editing path.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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[Leo Hans] “They sold the only profitable part of it.”
NO, they sold their CONSUMER editing apps, not the PROFESSIONAL ones. They are retaining the more profitable parts.
[Leo Hans] “Avid could be the best, but it seems that, at the end of the day, people is using other NLEs to do their work done.”
Not in my town (Los Angeles). People are flocking back to Avid. Adobe is gaining some ground, taking over in a few smaller areas that used to use FCP. Well, “flocking” is a strong word. This town moves slow when it comes to editing systems. They change only when they are forced to, so people are still using FCP 7…still using Avid Meridians and Express Pro, still using Avid MC3. The amount of seats that have upgraded to Avid MC 6 are minimal. Over time they will. L.A. is a big ship, and it takes a long time (years…many years), for it to turn around.
Shane
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We’ve talked about this in other threads….and talked and talked….and I still haven’t heard the first bit of evidence that this was a mistake FOR APPLE. For any one of you, perhaps, disaster, but I still think that this is already a big win FOR APPLE, and will turn out to be an even more massive win FOR APPLE as time goes by.
Look, there’s no company that has been more capricious, if not crueler, to its customers. It has regularly burned its current customer base to the ground in order to clear the way for the customer base it actually wants — and the customers it has and the customers it wants have often had very little overlap.
As I’ve said….and said and said….this is what makes Apple great. They’re not bound by the past, not the pasts of any or all industries, not their own. Refusal to be bound by limitations of the past is the foundation of innovation.
By contrast, which company is most tied to satisfying current customers, and allowing those customers to keep doing exactly what they’re doing for as long as possible? Microsoft. They just had the best quarter in the company’s entire history, driven almost entirely by sales of Windows.
Their actual innovation, though, is easily 10 years in the rear-view mirror. Are you excited to have Apple’s most creative years 10 years in the past? Oh, wait, their last innovation for editing before this one WAS 10 years in the past. (Even ProRes came 4 years AFTER Avid released DNxHD.) So maybe so.
But I don’t think so really. I think you WANT an Apple who aggressively innovates, even if you’d rather that they not innovate their foot right up your bottom. It’s just the wheel of karma. Hang around Apple long enough, and it will roll right over you, as it has since the day the Mac was introduced over 28 years ago.
C’mon, admit it. This is why you love Apple. They keep starting over.
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Take a look at this:
https://www.philiphodgetts.com/2012/07/avid-opposite-motley-fool-analysts-advice/
Leo Hans
Editor AVID – Final Cut Pro
https://www.leohans.com
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