dell monitor???

[Shane Ross]

As a computer monitor? Sure. Any monitor that connects via DVI is good. All you need to see is your workspace. If you need to judge the picture quality of your video, then you need an external broadcast monitor or TV.

Shane

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[Nate Stephens]

” need an external broadcast monitor or TV”

Shane just what is an “external” broadcast monitor..

I am trying to upgrade to MacPro and keep my budget down… So I am looking at the JVC DT-V24l1U, which a lot of cowers love…. But if I plug it in DVI would I get the same “broadcast” results as if I plugged it in HD component??

Can I use it as both a computer monitor and Broadcast monitor to color correct etc. with just the DVI out (I will have another cheap monitor for the FCP basics) ..?

or do I need the HD component out card for the MacPro ala, Kona or BM..

I guess what I am asking is there any difference in the HD output from FCP using the DVI monitor card out versus a HD video card??

[Shane Ross]

[Nate Stephens] ”
Shane just what is an “external” broadcast monitor..”

A glorified TV. Used to be big fancy CRT monitors with professional and expensive components that allowed for crystal clear imagry and the ability to adjust those monitors to properly display colors and balance them to color bars. I mean, those are still around..I have one…they just no longer make them. You can use a Television, but those lack decent components and controls to allow proper balancing. But, they will be fine if you are on a budget and just are making DVDs…not shows for air.

But now that the only TVs sold are LCDs, the professional monitors are all LCD as well.

[Nate Stephens] “So I am looking at the JVC DT-V24l1U, which a lot of cowers love…. But if I plug it in DVI would I get the same “broadcast” results as if I plugged it in HD component??”

Nope. The DVI out port sends a low res RGB signal that won’t might look decent on a LCD TV with DVI in, but it won’t be proper color. The Matrox MXO extracts a YUV signal from the DVI port, plus audio, and can convert that so that DVI monitors, specifically LCD monitors with 1920×1200 resolution (ACD, DELL) can display proper colors. TVs are still made with lower end components, so while they are still fine if your target is DVD, I wouldn’t use them for broadcast.

ALthough the Panasonic Plasmas are DARN close. But I use mine as a TV.

[Nate Stephens] “or do I need the HD component out card for the MacPro ala, Kona or BM..”

Or Matrox MXO or MXO 2. Yeah…sorry. If you want to do things right, gotta get the right gear. Yes, you COULD monitor without them, but you will not be getting the best image.

[Nate Stephens] “I guess what I am asking is there any difference in the HD output from FCP using the DVI monitor card out versus a HD video card??”

Yes…big difference. An uncorrected DVI signal from the computer won’t get you proper colors nor resolution. ONly with the MXO that extracts different data can you. And the BM and AJA cards don’t use DVI, they send the signal out via PCIe , or FW800 in the AJA I/O HDs case.

Shane

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[Rob Grauert]

Your EXTERNAL monitor is different from your computer monitor because it doesn’t tell you what you’re doing with your computer. It’s showing you the video that’s coming out of your non linear editing program. So when you have an external monitor, you can’t drag windows to it and use it as something to enlarge your workspace.

To see the video on your external monitor, configure Final Cut to have video and audio play back through firewire. The firewire should hook up to a deck or camera. Then the deck or camera should go to a monitor or TV through RCA.

There’s other ways to do it; you can use a BlackMagic Design PCI express card. It will give you more options for import, export and monitoring. If you’re working with MiniDV though, the way I suggested in the above paragraph would be enough….i think. Thats what I do.

Robert J. Grauert, Jr.

[Nick Righton]

Save yourself the money and get the DTV-20L1U ($870) from JVC for half the cost of the the 24 inch brother. You will still get a great monitor and one with higher res than the Panasonic unit. (1680×1050 vs 1368×768) The only thing you will not get with the 20 inch JVC vs the 24 inch JVC is the 1:1 pixel mapping for 1080p. The 20 inch monitor still supports 1080p (and looks marvelous) it just scales it. You can then spend the extra $800-$900 you save and get a Black Magic intensity card ($350) (HDMI to DVI input on the JVC monitor), as well as a nice 24″ computer monitor like the Samsung 245t ($650). So there you have it. I did the same except I got the LG 24″ SMVA monitor they no longer make. Get the Samsung 245t instead of the 245BW. The 245BW has a TN panel instead of the 245t’s SPVA monitor. The TN monitors have terrible vertical viewing angles and poorer color dithering (often due to 6 bit processing instead of 8 bit). Hope this helps.

Nick

[Bryan Banks]

Nick,
if you press the 1:1 button on the JVC when viewing 1080p material, will it actually display 1:1 and just crop this image? that’d be a nice way to check focus/sharpness and save an extra $1k.

btw the 20″ is 1680×1050 and the 24″ is 1920×1200

[Nick Righton]

Unfortunately JVC has not allowed for that. You can 1:1 720p. BTW Full compass has the unit in stock amd will price match buy.com (the least expensive legit dealer I have found that sells the monitor).

[Bryan Banks]

interesting…

how does the JVC handle 1080p footage? most of the stuff I’ll work with is 720 (from an HVX), but it’d be nice to know that it’ll be accurate with 1080 footage when I need it.

[Nick Righton]

It looks great. It can handle 1080p 24, 25, 30, 50, 60, as well as many other 720p rates. Here is a useful link. https://pro.jvc.com/pro/attributes/MONITOR/spec/dtv_dvi.html . Even most the Astro lcd monitors are not even close to 1:1 pixel mapping for 1080p but still are used for focus and framing on field shoots.

[Bryan Banks]

mmm i guess i’ll have to go out component to the monitor since it doesn’t support 480/60i and 720/24 through the DVI port.