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  • Delivery to Premiere from FCP

    Posted by Dan Evans on June 23, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Hello everyone,

    I have a problem that I can’t seem to find a solution to:

    We have a Stock Footage Reel for a client that I need to send from our studio to a PC based Premiere Studio.

    We’re on FCP so Quicktime would be the easiest
    In the past I’ve used either Photo JPEG’s or even MPEG 2’s to keep the quality up in a file based format. Without editing to tape, what are the best options for sending along?

    The 4 Gb limit on PC formatted drives also is giving me a headache or I would just send a Timecoded Stock Reel like we do for Mac – Mac

    Thanks

    Dan Evans

    Dan Evans replied 16 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Jaap Verdenius

    June 23, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    I guess you should export your sequence with Quicktime Conversion, select avi and choose the right compression settings (probably None).
    As for the 4 GB limit, you can get around that by defining a Limit to the Export File Segment Size in the System Settings (Scratch Disk tab). FCP will chop up your export accordingly into smaller files that will open as one movie on the other side.

    I am not sure though if this all works out nicely on the Premiere side of the universe – I regularly did this with .movs that had to be transported to a PC and that went flawless, but I have no experience with avi’s. (By the way if your Premiere studio has Quicktime installed they should be able to open a mov)

    Jaap

  • Dan Evans

    June 23, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Thanks that should make everything work better!

    I’m sure they’ll have QT installed so does that mean compressing to .avi is unnecessary?

    With the segmented file, will that only work in QT as one movie file? and for Premiere users can they import .mov without any hiccups?

  • David Roth weiss

    June 23, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Sorry Dan, but Jaap did not tell you the whole story — .mov designates only that a file is a Quicktime file, but not which codec was used to to create that file, and there are many Quicktime codecs that will not work on Windows machines There are many flavors .mov that simply have no decoder on the Windows side and thus cannot play in the Adobe products or even in Quicktime Player for that matter. And, while transcoding to an .AVI file is a possibility, not every AVI file file is created equally either. Photo Jpeg at 75% is most likely your best bet.

    To beat the 4Gb limitation, your client will need to install MacDrive on their computer, which allows them to read and transfer your Quicktimes to their hard drives without the file size limitation.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Dan Evans

    June 23, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Just to be clear here:

    the Photo-JPEG that David is talking about is a MOV not AVI?

    so the stock reel would come out as 1 large Photo Jpeg file. Would it help then to create a ‘disk spanning’ Zip archive that they could use on the other end?

  • Jaap Verdenius

    June 23, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    David you are right about codecs, but I was thinking/writing about uncompressed – that should work.

    Jaap

  • Dan Evans

    June 23, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Good to know, I think we’ll just stick to making the PC based studio purchase Macdrive.

    I take it the easy (*cough* expensive) way to do all this is just to edit it all on an HDcam tape?

    Thanks for all the help

  • David Roth weiss

    June 23, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    [Dan Evans] “Would it help then to create a ‘disk spanning’ Zip archive that they could use on the other end?

    Possibly!!! If it works. I’ve never had particularly good luck using that method, but it may have improved.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Dennis Radeke

    June 24, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    I’ve used MacDrive for some time now and it works like a charm. Furthermore, I don’t usually worry about converting .mov to .avi because Premiere Pro on the PC doesn’t present any problems with editing in Quicktime.

    At NAB this year, Adobe showed not only the Final Cut importer into Premiere Pro, but a Final Cut Pro exporter. So, connecting FCP and Premiere Pro workflows should become easier as time goes on.

  • Dan Evans

    June 24, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    Great, I’ll send them to this link if they curse my name, haha.

    The final output that I ended up using, for anyone looking for this answer:

    Mac to PC stock reel (non tape workflow)

    Quicktime – [Photo-JPEG 75]

    and I included a reference DVD with the timecode so that our client on PC or Mac w/o any editing software can also look at the files.

    Thanks Everyone for the good advice.

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