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  • Delirium Camera Shake Key ??

    Posted by Todd on November 13, 2005 at 8:17 pm

    I was going to post this in the Digeffects forum, but there has only been 1 post in the past month so figured it would get better seen here.

    I just recently started work at a new company and they have a copy of DigiEffects Delirium for AE. Quite a nice set of plug-ins I might add.

    I am using the Camera Shake plug-in from them to give a logo a “rumble” effect. It works and looks amazing, much better than how I would do it normally (wiggle, or record motion and drawing a squiggly line myself).

    Anyway here is the problem. It seems this plug-in does not allow alpha channels. Here is the scenario. Let’s make it simple. I have 1 layer with the logo on it that is the logo with a transparent background. Above this logo I have an adjustment layer with the camera shake applied. If you switch to view alpha in the comp preview window you see the logo keyed out nicely throughout the whole animation, UNTIL it reahces the point where the camera shake comes in. At this point the alpha is removed 100% and it adds a black background to the file.. VERY frustrating.

    I’ve tried numerous things to fix it, I’ve tried applying the effect to the logo layer itself, same exact result, adjustment layer as mentioned above, even applied ANOTHER adjustment layer above everything with XMult applied at the camera shake moment hoping it would key out the black during the shake.. No dice..

    For whatever reason it seems this plugin was ONLY designed to use with fullframe video, and trying to use it with anything else, it just removes all alpha and leaves you with full frame black.. Does anyone know of a work-around with this plugin? Or am I forced to go back to “rumbling” objects how I use to, which by the way don’t look nearly as nice..

    Any help appreciated, sorry for the long post, just wanted to give as much details as I could. Also I’m running AE 6.5 on Windows XP. I’m not sure what version of Delirium it is, but when clicking “about” it does say copyright 1996-1999 so I’m assuming its a rather old version.. Would an update possibly fix this?

    Hotspanners replied 20 years, 5 months ago 6 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Tom Daigon

    November 13, 2005 at 8:30 pm

    Whats a suprising limitation! I have the newest update for windows with the same issue. If the graphic
    you are keying lends itself, try a luma key or similiar. I know Boris has a great “shaker” but its alot of money for just 1 needed plugin. I can usually great good shakes using the “wiggle” expression on the
    position and scale atributes of a layer.

  • Todd

    November 13, 2005 at 8:34 pm

    Very disappointing to hear that it is a limitation with the product! At least I feel a little better knowing it wasn’t just me. The logo really doesn’t lend itself for a luma key, but as I said, I even tried using Xmult (since the logo is over pure black)just to see what would happen. But of course, that doesn’t work since technically there isn’t any black on the logo layer, and there isn’t a black solid, I think Camera Shake is somehow rendering/generating a black fill on its own and thus XMULT and things to that nature just don’t want to work.

    Thanks for the reply.

  • Mike Clasby

    November 13, 2005 at 9:50 pm

    If you’re open to another wat to shake your logo (almost sounds like a spring break thing) you might check out the preset “Quaker”:

    https://scottfrizzle.com/free_quake.html

    Freebie.

  • Serge Hamad

    November 13, 2005 at 9:58 pm

    Hi guys,

    Precomp your adjustment and logo layer after applying both Delirium and Xmult. Don’t forget to check the “Move all attributes…”

    Salut.
    Serge

  • Todd

    November 13, 2005 at 11:07 pm

    Thanks Serge for the tip.. I think that would work, the problem is there is a lot of areas in my logo that are black, so it ends up keying out part of the logo too. Shame the plugin has that limitation.

    YikesMikes, I just checked out that link and that plugin looks great, I’m downloading it now and going to try it out, thanks A LOT for that, it looks like it will work nicely.

  • Todd

    November 13, 2005 at 11:15 pm

    Just finished download, tweaked the sliders and settings and it is actually BETTER than the Delirium plugin I was using. Thanks a lot Mike! You solved the problem, AND made it look even better! If only the Cow had rep points, you’d be getting a bunch from me 🙂

  • Mike Clasby

    November 14, 2005 at 2:52 am

    Thanks to Scott Frizzle for shaing his preset.

  • Scott Frizzle

    November 14, 2005 at 8:09 pm

    You’re all welcome of course. It’s nice to see people getting some use out of it!

    -scott

  • Hotspanners

    November 22, 2005 at 5:04 pm

    Thanks a lot Scott! I was having a similar problem with DE Camera Shake on an adjustment layer, but you .ffx preset sorted it right out. Not only is it better, it take less time to preview. Cheers mate!

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