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Deletion/Workflow/Unity Questions
We’re running 3 Avid systems, all running Newscutter Adrenaline 5.6, and sharing one 1 terrabyte of Unity Storage. System Specs on All Three:
OS: Windows XP Pro Version 2002 ServicePack 1
Computer: hp xw8000
Processor: Xeon(TM) CPU 3.06 GHz (one computer is a year older and the processor is 2.79 GHz)
1GB of RAMHere’s the situation:
We were told to delete footage a certain way when they were installed. Our producers would move footage into a “DELETE ME” bin in projects that were ongoing (like News Topicals). Then, as Admin, I was instructed to go through the projects in Media Manager, open that bin and delete the footage. If it was a complete project deletion, I was instructed to select the project in Media Manager, click on delete, check the delete project box and say good-bye to footage not being shared.
Months later, we were getting more in-depth training and the trainer told me to delete stuff this way: Check the job in, delete the bin(s) with footage to trash, Empty the Trash and check the job in again. Then Media Manager would recognize the footage was gone. In MM, we’d then delete a project with 0MB.
Now, our drives are nearly full and I believe that we had a lot of footage on the Unity drive that was supposedly deleted the first way. That is to say, the video and audio for some old and long gone projects is still cogging up the drives.
We also have about 500 or so clips (mostly renders) that are in the Dissassociated Media AND Delete Media Pending Catalog that won’t delete (without Overriding).
A) Can anyone let me know what they do for deletion? I’m looking to see what various people are doing, not necessarily what’s right or wrong… What’s … um… Normal?
B) Any suggestions to improve what we’re doing to delete?
C) Am I right in thinking the only way to actually delete those extra media files is by physically deleting them from the Unity Drive through Windows (the OMFI Files)? There’s no pointer to them in Media Manager.
D) What other info can I supply to get help? 😀
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“Can anyone let me know what they do for deletion?”
We have 2 Adrenalines attached to a 1 terrabyte Unity. At any given time we have around 100 projects in various states of completion.
Once a week, we email a list of projects to our producers, and they tell us what is finished and can be deleted.
At this point, we delete projects using the media tool. We open a project to be deleted, open the media tool and select all drives, current project, and all media types.
When the tool displays the media, we select all and delete. After doing this for every project on the “delete” list, we exit Avid and move the deleted project files from the Avid Projects folder to a backup folder in case we ever need them again.
“Am I right in thinking the only way to actually delete those extra media files is by physically deleting them from the Unity Drive through Windows (the OMFI Files)?”
I’d suggest trying the media tool (assuming NewsCutter has one; it would probably be under the tools menu). Open the tool and in the right hand window is a list of projects. See if there are any listed that should’ve been deleted long ago. If so, select them and see what media was left behind, and delete it from there.
“Any suggestions to improve what we’re doing to delete?”
I’ve never used Media Manager, so I can’t really comment on your use of it. I like the media tool in Adrenaline, and haven’t had any trouble with it.
Hope that helped.
good luck,
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My first question is.
Are you a broadcast site or post production or both?
what is your project structure like when you log into your adrenalines?
i.e days of the week like…
01monday
02tuesday etc through 07 sunday
or do you create a project per job i.e “coca cola spot”As i understand it…Media Manager wants to handle ALL deletion.
In my experience this is done by killing the project in Media Manager(must be admin account) and getting for example 500gigs to delete but 300 gigs expected because 200gigs are protected by being referenced in sequences. any master clip still in use within a sequence will be protected based on this relationship.From what I know…..users should NOT delete from the editing client if shared storage and media manager are involved.
depending on your project structure weather it is “shared” or “external” and the project folder itself is stored on the c:\ of every editing client or weather you map to the external project folders that are stored on a workspace…you do know that you have to delete these folders after you have deleted the project in media manager?
also “We also have about 500 or so clips (mostly renders) that are in the Dissassociated Media AND Delete Media Pending Catalog that won’t delete (without Overriding).”
it sounds like people might have been deleting from the edit client without being logged into media manager and the 500 clips that wont delete are “orphans” that i believe could be over ridden in the delete(beware)
or you could run some sort of SQL clean up script on the media manager server that would kill them.hope this helps you out.
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Hi. Like you figured, there is no link between the Avid application and the ‘orphaned files’. What you could probably do is this… This will require you to use the Avid application as well as the Windows functions. Open each project that is being currently worked on and go to the bin/s where the footage has been captured. (Master Clips) Select each item and right click > and select “reveal File”. This will open up a Windows Folder with the OMFI Mediafile relating to the clip highlighted. Now, Manually open another folder called “AMFI MediaFiles” for eg. and move this file to that folder. Once you are done, Avid will ask you whether to reveal the next file. Say YES and then repeat this process. The reason why you are moving all the clips that you are using to this new folder “AMFI MediaFiles” is to make sure you are not going to delete them. Make sure you do that will all Audio as well as Effects source clips. At the end of everything, what ever is left inside the Original Media Files folder are the clips that are not being used / belong to old project that have already been deleted. Now you can safely delete them and restore the backed up OMFI files to the original location. Once you are through, make sure you delete all database files for the clips to get relinked agian. This will take time, but apparantly is the only way to do it. Please note that this is possible only with the Avid.
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Looks like I may be coming in on a weekend… 😀 Thanks for the help folks!
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