-
Dear Adobe, AUDIO – OH how awful
Dear Adobe:
This is coming from Avid and FCP7 to PPr CS6 using for the past year, a job requirement….
It is not polite to say I hate something, but the way CS6 PPr handles audio is awful. My job has me producing lots of interviews, nat sound, typical news and documentary style productions all over the country. Camera audio is 2 track mono. Usually for nat sound track 1 auto, track 2 manual. Single person interview, wireless mic, same as nat sound, track 1 auto, track 2 manual. 2 wireless mic interviews both manual.
OK bring in to PPr set tracks to mono – fine. The huge frustration is now adding stereo music to the pieces. Inset audio = 2 mono tracks which now have to be adjust individually. Have tried all the presets, stereo, adaptive stereo, adaptive, in the preferences stereo media to stereo. If you drop a stereo track in Premiere it should know that it is stereo, it is linked, when you keyframe it should keyframe both tracks and when manipulating the keyframe should do both tracks. If you do’t want to manipulate both tracks then unlink them. Easy.
More little frustrations. Every time you open a bin it jumps to the bottom left. The bins do not remember where they were last opened. IE like any other programs on a Mac.
Audio gain – Adjust Gain or Normalize you have to click on the title or button then click again on the number to adjust it. Extra clicks.
PPR doesn’t remember the last setup used, I always set up the same way, so my trick has been to set up a dummy project and just duplicate it to keep all the things the way I like it.
There are just so many extra clicks to do a simple edit.
Thank you.
Wendell Davis
Senior Producer, Director, Videographer, Editor
(In essence your typical one man band.)
Mac Pro 8 core, 32gig ram
16TB internal(12 as a raid)
50+TB external
3 30 inch monitors (1 Sony reference monitor, 2 30 inch Mac monitors) -
18 Replies
-
Check these out:
https://vimeo.com/38237939
https://vimeo.com/38501157Some contents or functionalities here are not available due to your cookie preferences!This happens because the functionality/content marked as “Vimeo framework” uses cookies that you choosed to keep disabled. In order to view this content or use this functionality, please enable cookies: click here to open your cookie preferences.
-
Thank you Tero. He explained the short comings and said that it is not the way he likes to work because it cause more clicks. Said more eloquently than I.
Wendell -
hmmm…
Why can’t your music be stereo source in the bin and dropped on to Stereo tracks on the timeline?
PPro timelines can have both kinds of tracks in the same seq
Alex Udell
Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX -
Does’t want to work that way. Tried all the settings and other editors have tried as well. Just something to get over I
-
Hi Wendell…
bizarre….i do that all the time….
do you have your prefs set so that everything imported is interpreted as mono?
that could be the culprit.
if so change that pref default behavior.
then it should work.
What this will, mean, though is that camera sources…when imported will need to be selected and set to mono before you drop them on the timeline….
I think Adobe needs to be able to set up import MAPPING by file type. OR they should optionally prompt you on the way in on how to interp them…That would help users like yourself a lot….and that’s worth a feature request…
Alex
-
To me watching the boards, audio is one of the more complained about items.
Yes I set the tracks up MONO primarily because all camera footage is split track and when put in the timeline for example, if it is a mono interview with track 1 being auto and track 2 being manually recorded, I use only track 2. Track 1 is my safety only if needed. Happens rarely but does happen that it is needed. Old tape news style. I suppose I could set up stereo and then go to the trouble or resetting every clip from the camera. Again just extra steps.
That is the frustration. Premiere requires extra steps to do many – many things. You wonder if they have real editors sit down and say how can we do this quicker.
I agree that you should be able to easily set it up. AVID and FCP7 have done it for years.
CS6 is far above 5 and 5.5 and has some great things. It is just all those extra steps that is most frustrating.
Thank you guys.
-
Please make your feelings known in our feedback form: https://www.adobe.com/go/wish
We certainly don’t want you to be frustrated with audio workflow.Kevin Monahan
Sr. Content and Community Lead
Adobe After Effects
Adobe Premiere Pro
Adobe Systems, Inc.
Follow Me on Twitter! -
I have sent the information to Adobe. I have used Photoshop since non numbered versions – back in the 80s. Sometimes I just wish the programmers would come out into the field and sit with editors. Premiere CS6 is great and frustrating at the same time. Audio is my biggest frustration. Great video is wonderful, OK video is passable. Bad audio ruins a piece.
Whenever I’m home I go to the Boston Creative Pro meetings – Dan Berube does a great job – to hear from other pros. Adobe has put on some great programs over the years.
Thanks for listening. Good of Adobe.
Wendell -
Hi Wendell,
When I record stereo in camera, with a different mic on each channel, I just leave the audio as stereo in Premiere and use the “Fill Left” or “Fill Right” effects to choose which channel is heard, on both L and R channels. If alternating between using L and R source, I Razor cut where the switch is, and apply a short crossfade.
Thanks
Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers -
As a FCP editor, yes your Preferences should typically be set to import Stereo Media as Mono so you can control Ch.1 & Ch.2 separately.
After you bring in a file you want to use as a Stereo track, right-click (Ctrl-click Mac) on the file in Project window, select Modify, Audio Channels…, change Channel Format to Stereo, when you edit into your sequence make sure you don’t have A2 patched to a track
Or,
Simply set your Preferences to Stereo Media as Mono while you import camera/location files and then change your Preferences to Stereo Media as Stereo before you import true stereo files. The clips in the Project window will retain the setting used during import.
Is it a pain? Oh yeah, for sure. Here’s to hoping it’ll be more flexible in CS7…
David Kuhnen
BVK-Milwaukee
Video Editor/Engineer
Reply to this Discussion! Login or Sign Up