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DaVinci Scratch or Color
hi guys
it’s been a while since i’ve been on this forum and once again i could really do with your help.
i have a project coming up and i’m running a MacPro 8core with 6 gig ram and standard Graphics card.
we have an hour long show coming up and we need to be able to grade it. we use color but it is slow and the keying and tracking tools are clumsy to say the least.
we have a couple of options either we update our Graphics card to a mac flash GTX 470 and add more ram to our existing machine to see if color would run better for the short term. or use scratch or get a BMD card and use DaVinci.
Scratch is appealing because we can conform and grade and stay in the Kona 3G family which suites our work-flow it also allows some composting.
is there anyone out there that has experience with any of these systems or can recommend something better?
thanks in advance. i know this is vague but i would really like to stay in the AJA family if possible
Thanks
Nick
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9 Replies
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Hey Nick,
I have the pleasure to constantly switching back and forth between the two and its not an easy choice.
Both systems have a lot of great tool and point that speak against or for them.
Davinci is amazing when it comes to the extra color tools like predefined isolation curves, the gallery store and the tracker of course.
It also has a working multi timeline.
Scratch is impressively flexible when it comes to media management, versioning and the whole interface is much more flick-able.i could go into details for hours, but bottom line, it comes down what exactly you want to do, what media files you have, what interface you like and how your equipment looks.
Both are fine solutions , thats why we use both …A slice of color…
DaVinci 8.1.1 OSX 10.7.2
MacPro 5.1 2×2,4 24GB
RAID0 8TB
GTX 470 / GT 120
Extreme 3D+ICA Instructor
https://www.icolorist.com/Sascha.html -
Its a difficult decision i Know and based on price alone DaVinci wins hand down. However with regards to the tracker is it that much better in DaVinci then scratch?
and if i upgrade my system will Color get me out of trouble for now? Times are hard and it’s important to make the right decision.
i do like the Node based effects on Davinci but it will mean using a BMD card
have you had any experience with the GTX 470 Flashed for mac?
thanks
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Yes, I am actually using one and its very good.
And honestly, you can probably use the free version when money is super tight and just spend the cash on the Decklink card.
And of course you don’t have to buy the big one, any will do, it just has to be the latest generation.
If its a one shot, I would go that route.
Scratch wins hands down in a commercial driven workflow , but if you have a feature with a lot of tracking planed, Resolve will help you a lot.
But your Aja card will be shelved for the time being, you need the slots for the GT120+GT470.A slice of color…
DaVinci 8.1.1 OSX 10.7.2
MacPro 5.1 2×2,4 24GB
RAID0 8TB
GTX 470 / GT 120
Extreme 3D+ICA Instructor
https://www.icolorist.com/Sascha.html -
The other big question, of course, is are you planning on finishing in ProRes at all?
I used SCRATCH on a feature this year and really dug it, but Da Vinci writes ProRes natively (saved us a transcode step, and the included gamma shift that came with it), and it’s interface is far, far easier to use than SCRATCH.
And the tracker blow’s scratches out of the water.
So, if ProRes is part of your workflow, then it’s Da Vinci all the way.
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I totally agree on the ProRes topic and totally disagree on the interface 🙂
A slice of color…
DaVinci 8.1.1 OSX 10.7.2
MacPro 5.1 2×2,4 24GB
RAID0 8TB
GTX 470 / GT 120
Extreme 3D+ICA Instructor
http://www.icolorist.com/Sascha.html -
we are looking to do short and long form projects. are you suggesting that i’ll have to have two graphics cards? also from what we’ve read the GT470 is only for PC and has to be flashed for the mac.
some people have said that the GTX 470 has power issues. the ProRes is an issue but the Guys at assimilate say there is no problem.
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also for more expansion slots have any of you used the cubix system to allow additional cards?
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You need to use flashed to mac 470 what is talked here on the forum.
Do some searches and you will see.
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Margus
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