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DaVinci Resolve 8.1 — now with FCPXML roundtrip support
David Lawrence replied 14 years, 9 months ago 25 Members · 157 Replies
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David Lawrence
October 18, 2011 at 9:21 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “I go back to my statement, the system wasn’t ready. It was released in the 10.0 state because everything was not quite in place. Apple knew exactly what they were doing. I believe that they knew this interface was going to be a stretch for some long time FCP users, they also knew there was going to be some bugs, they knew there was going to be some backlash, so instead of releasing it to an overwhelming majority of users who were going to bang on it harder than has been done in their “beta testing” FCPX would have been even more of a complete joke that some people think it currently is as it would have been full of half working “features”. “
[Jeremy Garchow] “It is pretty clear to me that Apple has thought about FCPX pretty hard, and they are still thinking about it. It’s not done, or else they would have released it. The whole picture is not in view, and some can’t wait for that picture to come clear. I get that.”
On the other hand, what if there’s a much easier explanation?
What if they simply blew it?
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Walter Soyka
October 18, 2011 at 9:28 pm[David Lawrence] “On the other hand, what if there’s a much easier explanation? What if they simply blew it?”
Occam’s Razor!
What now, fanboys? (he says in jest!)
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Jeremy Garchow
October 18, 2011 at 9:34 pm[David Lawrence] “What if they simply blew it?”
Yeah. There is definitely that possibility.
If they blew it, then FCP in my professional life, will end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqiblXFlZuk
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Chris Harlan
October 18, 2011 at 10:45 pm[David Lawrence] “On the other hand, what if there’s a much easier explanation?
What if they simply blew it?
“OR–and I bet you have NOT considered this–it is a multidimensional program that sits across the local multiverse and is only partially visible in our world, until Dec. 2012, when the doors between universes open and we have an ice cream party. At that point, you will be able to multicam across time and the boundary between alternate realities.
I think, using Ockham’s Razor, this has to be it.
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Herb Sevush
October 18, 2011 at 10:47 pm[Chris Harlan] “OR–and I bet you have NOT considered this–it is a multidimensional program that sits across the local multiverse and is only partially visible in our world, until Dec. 2012, when the doors between universes open and we have an ice cream party. At that point, you will be able to multicam across time and the boundary between alternate realities.”
You can explain this mathematically using string theory.
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Jeremy Garchow
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Steve Connor
October 18, 2011 at 11:00 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “Or this. From Digital Rebellion feed:
Mindblowing! Hoverboards here we come
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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David Roth weiss
October 18, 2011 at 11:02 pm[Chris Harlan] “OR–and I bet you have NOT considered this–it is a multidimensional program that sits across the local multiverse and is only partially visible in our world, until Dec. 2012, when the doors between universes open and we have an ice cream party. At that point, you will be able to multicam across time and the boundary between alternate realities. “
Does this mean Fringe is actually a reality show?
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Simon Ubsdell
October 19, 2011 at 9:31 am[Jeremy Garchow] “Because they share some of the same terms doesn’t mean they are the same program or even share the code, which means that FCP does not equal iMovie form the very foundation of it, even though they may look the same.”
That old favourite of these forums, William of Occam, he say: entea non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem or in the plain language of the Angles beatified by Augustine: entities should not be multiplied if not absolutely necessary.
But of course this somehow doesn’t apply to the iMovie/FCPX conundrum, where of course we are talking about two completely different things.
Let us not talk about the superficial similarities of the entire interface which are well known but utterly irrelevant.
Let’s not discuss why FCPX shares the exactly the same idiosyncratic and not altogether perfect project management window as iMovie.
Let’s not talk about how the Transitions, Generators, Music and Effects, Titles, etc. browsers are identical in design and operation.
Let’s not talk about how the FCPX Event library with its underlying metadata management system was so oddly but coincidentally prefigured in iMovie.
Let’s above all not draw attention to the fact that the magnetic timeline with its default rippling behaviour (!), its connected clips (!), its apparently identical Replace modes (!), its Precision Editor (!) and so on and so on, all seemed to have appeared in iMovie long before we knew anything about FCPX.
Let’s not remind ourselves that the very same designer unjustly vilified for his creation of FCPX was earlier unjustly vilified for his creation of iMovie 08 – naturally he would have remembered nothing of what he’d done earlier with iMovie (apparently in another dimension of space and time) when quite by chance he came to work on FCPX.
None of this is relevant, because old William of O. is just plain wrong in this case.
We are talking about two entities which only appear to be the same by the merest coincidence and did in fact, miraculously, arise entirely spontaneously and independently during the same timeframe in exactly the same spot on the planet.
It is of course much more likely that Apple just happened to design FCPX along the exact same lines as iMovie without having remembered that they’d done it all before, than that FCPX, heaven forfend, is in any way descended from iMovie.
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Steve Connor
October 19, 2011 at 11:00 am[Simon Ubsdell] “That old favourite of these forums, William of Occam, he say: entea non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem or in the plain language of the Angles beatified by Augustine: entities should not be multiplied if not absolutely necessary.
But of course this somehow doesn’t apply to the iMovie/FCPX conundrum, where of course we are talking about two completely different things.
Let us not talk about the superficial similarities of the entire interface which are well known but utterly irrelevant.
Let’s not discuss why FCPX shares the exactly the same idiosyncratic and not altogether perfect project management window as iMovie.
Let’s not talk about how the Transitions, Generators, Music and Effects, Titles, etc. browsers are identical in design and operation.
Let’s not talk about how the FCPX Event library with its underlying metadata management system was so oddly but coincidentally prefigured in iMovie.
Let’s above all not draw attention to the fact that the magnetic timeline with its default rippling behaviour (!), its connected clips (!), its apparently identical Replace modes (!), its Precision Editor (!) and so on and so on, all seemed to have appeared in iMovie long before we knew anything about FCPX.
Let’s not remind ourselves that the very same designer unjustly vilified for his creation of FCPX was earlier unjustly vilified for his creation of iMovie 08 – naturally he would have remembered nothing of what he’d done earlier with iMovie (apparently in another dimension of space and time) when quite by chance he came to work on FCPX.
None of this is relevant, because old William of O. is just plain wrong in this case.
We are talking about two entities which only appear to be the same by the merest coincidence and did in fact, miraculously, arise entirely spontaneously and independently during the same timeframe in exactly the same spot on the planet.
It is of course much more likely that Apple just happened to design FCPX along the exact same lines as iMovie without having remembered that they’d done it all before, than that FCPX, heaven forfend, is in any way descended from iMovie.
“So you’re saying you DO think it’s related to iMovie 🙂
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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