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DaVinci Resolve 14 for Final Cut Pro 7 Users
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A lot of the features in PP seem to be half baked. Then it takes a while for them to get to full potential because they will focus on another new feature that is half baked again. That is why I like third party offerings that can focus on developing plugins that work.
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[Bill Davis]”I forgot about all the editors that switch back and forth between the Macs and PCs sitting side by side on their desks. ”
Actually you forgot about all the editors that no longer have a Mac and switched back to PC and all the editors that never had a Mac. Hard to imagine but that’s life outside a bubble.
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[Michael Gissing] “[Bill Davis]”I forgot about all the editors that switch back and forth between the Macs and PCs sitting side by side on their desks. ”
Actually you forgot about all the editors that no longer have a Mac and switched back to PC and all the editors that never had a Mac. Hard to imagine but that’s life outside a bubble.”
I was actually in the position to switch to Mac about three weeks ago. I was up for a hardware refresh and I could have asked for a Mac Pro, since all of my applications are cross platform… I really considered it, but in the end it came down to hardware and support, Apple just didn’t have a strong enough offering to entice me into switching. This also happened to two friends of mine earlier this month, except they opted to switch from Apple to Windows PCs, again it was all about the hardware.
Shawn
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[Brian Seegmiller] “A lot of the features in PP seem to be half baked. Then it takes a while for them to get to full potential because they will focus on another new feature that is half baked again. That is why I like third party offerings that can focus on developing plugins that work.”
What exactly is half baked in Premiere Pro? The Essential Graphics Panel was probably released 14 -15 months to soon but the same could be said about FCPX. Was FCPX half baked? Is Apple’s Touchbar half baked? I would tend to think so since the awesome new keyboard for the iMac Pro does not have a touch bar. No one mentioned that : )
FCPX $299.99!
FCPX after plugins $799.99 : (
I may have bought a Mac Mini but I don’t drink the Kool-Aid : )
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I’m not yet convinced that Resolve’s uber-app approach is going to pay off for BM.
Step one is to convince editors that Resolve is a better NLE than their current one. Step two is to convince editors that the benefits of learning the Color page and the Fairlight page far outweigh the time/energy it takes to learn both pages (assuming we are talking about generalists/solo practitioners). The trend to date w/NLEs has been to make them NLEs first and then add ‘good enough’ audio, GFX, coloring, etc., functions to them and if more powerful tools were needed then go out of the NLE to ProTools or AE or whatever tool was needed. We still see this today with things like the Essentials panels in PPro and Apple not cramming all the functionality of Color into FCP X.
If we are talking about teams of specialists then the hurdle is to get all the specialists to use Resolve, and that’s has always been a big problem for suites of apps because odds are that not each app in the suite will be best in breed. How many rerecording mixers would choose to use Audition just because their editor is using PPro or how many GFX or VFX artists would choose to use Motion just because the editor is using FCP X? First thing first though is to get editors to choose Resolve to be their new NLE.
Maybe BM will be able to pull off a ‘super app’ that takes the industry by storm. Success in certain areas? Of course, but broader I think is going to be a much tougher row to hoe (especially since Apple, Adobe and Avid have had a lot of time to re-stake their territory in the last 5-6yrs). Time will tell though.
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[Andrew Kimery] “I’m not yet convinced that Resolve’s uber-app approach is going to pay off for BM.”
To date, the “super-app” approach hasn’t paid off in sheer numbers for anyone. Witness Avid DS, Smoke and to a lesser extent, even Avid Symphony. In theory, if rumors are to be believed, Apple was developing something like that as FCP8, which was killed by Jobs in favor of FCPX. So light+add-ons or the suite of apps, still seems like a winning strategy. BMD’s solution to mitigating complexity is the modal/page approach. That might, in fact, crack the code, since you don’t have to use everything in the toolkit. But, we’ll see.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[andy patterson] “The Essential Graphics Panel was probably released 14 -15 months to soon…”
Releasing something too soon is the very definition of half baked.
Of course sometimes there is a fine line between half baked and feature-limited. For example, when Search Bins first appeared in PPro they were pretty limited, but more functionality was added in a later update. I don’t think I would call their initial release half baked, just not fleshed out.
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Andy Patterson,
FCP X = $299.99
FCP X + plugins = $799.99Premiere Pro CC for Teams= $69.99 per month
Premiere Pro CC = $828 per year
Premiere Pro CC for 5 years = $4,140
Premiere Pro CC for 10 years = $8,280
Shall I go on?Paying once for FCP X, priceless.
What is your point?
Yes, FCP X was half baked when released, get over it. Is it solid now, yes and no. For the majority of users it works just fine. For those that need more, third party developers can fill that need.
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[Shawn Miller] “This also happened to two friends of mine earlier this month, except they opted to switch from Apple to Windows PCs, again it was all about the hardware.”
I think that’s the crux of the trend away from Apple. The versatility of options on the PC side simply can’t be matched by the current Apple product line.
I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
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[Andrew Kimery] “Releasing something too soon is the very definition of half baked.”
Half baked is just mediocre. Releasing a good idea to soon is releasing a good idea to soon. I am not saying The Essential Graphics Panel is a good idea. I do think it has potential but we will have to wait until NAB 2018 to know for sure.
[Andrew Kimery] “I don’t think I would call their initial release half baked, just not fleshed out.”
I agree but I am not the one who called it half baked. Brian stated it was half baked I stated it was released a year to soon. I think we agree.
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