Cutting a major Hollywood Feature on FCPX

[Bill Davis]

[Michael Aranyshev] “Really? So how many keystrokes it takes to sync a single take with corresponding production sound when you don’t have matching timecode nor the on-camera sound ?”

Two?

The synchronize clip process is a menu selection. It has a tiered sync process that yes, allows clips to sync via TC, but if TC is not available NOR audio waveforms, you just place markers for something like a GoPro in a waterproof housing with absolutely no scratch track for syncing. Markers are, of course, a single M keystroke like all other NLEs. One on the video, One on the audio track, and menu to “Synchronize Clip” Thats about it.

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[Andrew Kimery]

[Bill Davis] “Huh?

So FXP X or not .. Fine to Bring up Premier or other NLEs.

But Adobe CC or not … can’t talk other NLEs only “business models” ???”

I’m not sure what’s so confusing. It’s a debate forum centered around Adobe Creative Cloud and the change in business model that it introduced. FCP X or Not is a debate forum centered around the change that FCP X introduced. Look at other threads in the Adobe CC debate forum and you’ll find mention of Smoke, Avid, Resolve, Lightworks and even FCP X but it’s all within the context of the business model being employed. Subscription only, perpetual license only, subscription or perpetual license, free/low cost as long as you buy first party hardware, etc.,.

Just look at the recent forum topic in the Adobe CC debate forum:
How moving to subscription only has impact Adobe’s quarterly numbers.
A he said/she said SNAFU where students thought they had perpetual licenses to their software but Adobe and the University are saying they only had temp licenses.
How subscription only software can change the playing field for small shops.
Blackmagic buying Eyeon Fusion (and if it will get the same price drop and free version like Resolve).
A thread called “The modern corporation”.

I’ve got it turned on to the 3-month view and while they are a handful of threads about specific pieces of software the vast majority of threads are more business-centric.

[Bill Davis] “So I’m gonna kinda call FOUL on requiring them to be treated different – when they’re really NOT.”

Um, okay, you can do whatever you want but individual forums are kinda self correcting which you’ve already experienced apparently. If the community at large thinks something is too OT they’ll say so, ignore the thread and/or ask the thread to be moved to a more appropriate forum.

For example, this very topic (PPro being used on Gone Girl) was posted in the Adobe CC Debate forum too and not a single person has replied to it. And I’m not surprised because it’s not the type of thing that typically gets the regulars over there talking.

[Bill Davis] “Fair is fair. And if OR NOT means Adobe discussions in X forums, then OR NOT kinda has to suppose that X discussions in Adobe Forums are fair too. (I’m pretty sure this all falls under the transitive property of equality – but I was sick that week in High School, so I might be wrong about that. )”

So you want to troll Adobe forums with unrelated FCP X posts just because you are upset that NLEs other than FCP X are being talked about in a forum that was created for people to debate the merits of various NLEs? Knock yourself out man and post whatever you want wherever you want but don’t be surprised if you hear crickets while talking about football in a baseball forum (hey, sports are sports, right).

[Misha Aranyshev]

So first I need to scroll the list for my picture, click on it and play to the where sticks hit and put marker. Then I have to go back to the list and scroll for my sound and click on it. Play to the clap and put another marker. Then I have to scroll back to my picture and command click on it to select both sound and picture and right–click to call up synchronize dialog (yes, there is a shortcut but since I grabbed the mouse it is faster to right–click), select the right options (all right, the dialog remembers the last settings) and click OK. Then I have to scroll to wherever the synchronized clip is in the list to play it. That’s more than 2.

[Misha Aranyshev]

I took another look. There is no way to assign different Roles to different tracks in the same clip in Inspector.

[Oliver Peters]

[Michael Aranyshev] “So first I need to scroll the list for my picture, click on it …That’s more than 2”

That’s what assistant editors are for. How do you think it was done for years in film transfer rooms or in Avid systems? Again, referring to audio and video without common TC.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Misha Aranyshev]

I know how I’ve been doing it in FCP since 1999 and it’s completely different.

[Charlie Austin]

[Michael Aranyshev] “I know how I’ve been doing it in FCP since 1999 and it’s completely different.”

How?

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[Jeremy Garchow]

You can also grab the two clips, synchronize them, and then find the sync point later.
At any rate, it’s completely possible in X, and yes, it’s completely different than 7. It’s more than two clicks in 7 too.

And just to keep things completely on topic in this thread, I’d like to bring up another subplot.

#Bendghazi2014, horsesh*t or serious sh*t?

Discuss!

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Michael Aranyshev] “I took another look. There is no way to assign different Roles to different tracks in the same clip in Inspector.”

Nope, has to be done in a timeline.

Have you ever looked at an AAF from x2pro and a moderately organized X timeline in ProTools?

[Misha Aranyshev]

I won’t play cheap tricks of omitting the necessary steps so description will be long:

Make sure you have enough “dummy” audio tracks with your picture. In the old days you’d digitize your dailies from BetaSP with Audio enabled and ended up with two silent tracks. Select all picture clips, copy, paste into the empty timeline. They will be pasted in the same order they were sorted in the bin so use it to your advantage. Starting from the beginning JKL to the first sticks hit. Go to Browser, the Production Audio bin. Unless it was recorded to DAT the best sorting order is Date Created. Select the first clip, hit Return, JKL to the clap, F11. Hit play to check sync. Fast forward to the next sticks, Command-4, Down Arrow, Return, JKL, F11. Repeat until there is no more clips.