- November 12, 2011 at 6:39 am
I was just reading about someone looking to build their own tactile surfaces for other applications and thought I’d check your guys opinions on whether this might be possible for Resolve. One of the posts recommended this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CZ0RJC/
Is that possible to tune to resolve or is there limitations on the Black Magic end?
- November 13, 2011 at 9:48 pm
At last count, there are three surfaces that work; DaVinci’s dedicated set, the Artist, and the Tangent Wave.
So, in short, the history so far is that a vast array of commercial surfaces that are already out there are not supported, and unlikely to be, let alone a DIY project. The interface is complicated. Even manufacturers like Tangent have made no other offerings available, even though several of us have some formerly not inexpensive panels (200-series, anyone?) and would dearly like to offset the investment with a revenue stream, because the COLOR model is running dry…
You mean “Old Ben”? Ben Kenobi?
- November 14, 2011 at 12:15 am
The JL-Cooper too…
There is no way to program another surface, that is done by BMD and there is no API available to someone who would want to interface a different panel.
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- April 9, 2018 at 8:32 pm
There’s more …..
Akai APC-40 and as of today also Arturia Beatstep based budget solutions after some hardcore development over now 3 years.
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- April 10, 2018 at 12:55 am
Holy c#@p!!! Looks great! First time hearing about this. Will have to buy this now.
- April 11, 2018 at 3:41 pm
If any of the above can just do the three (wish for four) wheels I am good.
I have an Artist and would like to replace it with something slimmer.
The BMD ones are still a bit pricey for my taste.
- April 11, 2018 at 4:33 pm
Not sure i understand you question. The Beatstep Resolve Edition is like the bigger APC40 one of the most powerfull controllers on the market and controls more then 90-95%% of the color page.To get anywhere close on functions you need to spend thousands of EU/Dollars. Why do you think i would leave out a simple 4 wheels ????
– all primaries controls (minus the balls) on wheel/log/bars/rgb mixer pages
– all qualifiers controls
– all shapes controls
– all curves including XvsY and Custom curve points direct control
– All sizing pages and all controls in there
– Key page
– Blur/sharpen/mist page
– Noise Reduction MFX page
– 20 OFX fully mapped
– 5 custom programmable banks (16 knobs each) using just the knobs/buttons on the controller to program
– HUI mixer in fairliight page
– Super smooth JOG/SCRUB in Edit and Fairlight page
The only thing this one can not do is BALLS. For that i typicaly use a Tangent Ripple if i realy need it for just the balls control and anything else i use my APC40 (bigger brother) version. The Beatstep is more compact and compared to the APC40 only missing tracking control, and a few push button type actions but not much. Check out the instruction video on the APC40 (~1 hr long bit outdated but still good enough) which gives you an idea what these controllers do. In a week or so i will make a full video on the Beatstep.
- April 12, 2018 at 9:48 am
[Joseph Owens] “At last count, there are three surfaces that work; DaVinci’s dedicated set, the Artist, and the Tangent Wave.”
Don’t forget the Tangent Elements and the Tangent Ripple — both of which use the standard Tangent protocol. They all work very well.
Having just gone back to the big panels for the first time in years, I’m reminded of how well-tailored the program is to those. You can work on anything, but there’s a reason the Advanced Panels are used at the big shops all over the world.
I went through the whole “MIDI / kludgy” thing with Pro Tools, and it was exhausting just trying to keep up with drivers and patches and macros and interpretations and things that would stutter and go wrong, or automation that would go south at the worst possible moment. I wouldn’t wish that on anybody. These little toy boxes don’t work for me. I have no problem using macro boxes — I’m a huge fan of the programmable XKeys buttons, and the Elgato Streamdeck is very promising — but the Midi stuff leaves me cold. The advantage of the purpose-built panels is you can develop the muscle memory required to use these surfaces quickly. And speed is the whole point. I don’t have time to spend 10 minutes per shot — we have to get through features and episodic TV very quickly. I concede there are some projects where you can spend much more time, but it’s not the way I’m wired.
- April 12, 2018 at 10:26 am
Totally agree on the big box, if you have the money go for it. I would.
Totally disagree on the midi boxes at least where its about my midi boxes. Yes 99% of them on the market are crap because people think a few macros is all you need.
Most are nothing more then simple push button devices with single action marco buttons. Mine do not fall into that category.
This is 3 years development with dedicated programming , purpose build user interaction ,etc, so no not comparable at all.
And luckily my customer feedback is the same. They are baffled , because like you they think its just a play thing, untill you actualy start using it.
Regularly get mails how it changes the way they grade. This all for the APC40 version as no experience yet on the new thingy. Will see how that goes but is differently targeted , more at portable power.
Have a few that ebayed their Tangent elements after loosing so much time on all the submenus. Or begging me to implement it also on Linux Just saying.
And lastly , keep in mind the budget and target audience. Its not big facilities, A+ level graders etc. Its for the indies, small poor freelancers that dont have tons to spend, Dit’s, i have a few cinematoraphers. And what you get for it. If it was not my pet project , which i just build for myself in the end, i would have stopped long time ago. Zero profit. All time and love but i guess that makes all the difference. Payment for me is the feedback i get.
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