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CS5 – already frustrated – REALLY Adobe?!?!
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I’m with you Eric – just installed the trail and appalled at the lack of presets! The two things I NEED to try BEFORE paying for it are locked out – so Adobe loses another sale. Very short-sited Adobe.
Lance Bachelder
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I just always wonder, when are these “big companies” gonna get it right?!? It seems as if they do absolutely zero communication with the “everyday people” who use their products…..to find out how they can provide a better end-user experience.
I am gunning for a certain workflow, and I am still unsure if they can provide, so I will not be purchasing now either….I have a feeling there will be alot of lost sales because of this. but what do we know….right….we are just the people. hehehe LOL
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@ Lance – It’s not a matter of Adobe being short-sighted. It’s a matter of them not wanting to have to pay the huge license fee to allow MPEG technology to be in the trial version. I know if it were up to them, they would want you to be able to use it, but as they have to pay a license fee for each copy of PPro, they can’t afford to just give it away. What Adobe does do is offer a 30 day money back guarantee. If you’re not happy, just return it.
Also, you’ll notice that both Apple and Avid don’t even offer trial versions – so at least Adobe is willing to let you try out most of PPro.
@ Eric -I think Adobe really has done a great job this time around talking to users, and communicating with them about what they will need for CS5 (64bit OS, video cards, etc.). They’ve got video demos all over the web showing what CS5 can do. Now, if you are referring to the trial not being able to support MPEG based codecs, they do have it stated on the trial download page what the limitations are.
As a long time PPro user, I see this every release…EVERY release. And as much as some of us users have lobbied to have Adobe not issue a trial because users always complain about this, they continue to do it because they want people to have the option to try it. I can understand that, but as we move into a world where most cameras are shooting with some form of MPEG based codec, they finally might need to re-think the whole “trial” version.
Hope that helps!
—Eric
Owner | 100 ACRE FILMS
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@Eric – who are you? I was an Adobe beta tester from Premiere Pro 1 through CS3 – Adobe rarely listens to ANY of it’s testers – even those of us working in Hollywood on hit TV shows and studio movies. This is why I left the beta program.
All Adobe would have to do post is a simple list stating that the “following features are NOT available in the demo version!” Would have saved some frustration as far as downloading and installing and testing only to find out the key features the are hawking are disabled. I’d still be bummed but I wouldn’t have wasted any actual time.
I don’t post here just to see my writing on the internet – Eric M. and I feel we have a legitimate gripe and we’re entitled to voice our opinions. And YES Avid does have a FULLY FUNCTIONAL demo version available – don’t post stuff when you don’t have the facts right!
Lance Bachelder
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Actually, i think that the lack of H.264 (Canon DSLR) presets is completely unrelated to licencing reasons. If that were the case, I guess there wouldn’t be H.264 in Adobe Media Encoder CS5 trial as well. But there is.
Premiere CS5 tryout is kind of useless. The only real feature, Mercury engine (which is really impressive and fast even on older HW), cannot be put to good use. And even with Mercury working, it’s still the same old Premiere – clunky interface, reconnecting media hell, unstable capture, bugs all over the place. Thanks, but no thanks.
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I am with ya. What are you editing with? I am currently diving into FCP studio 3 and enjoying it so far.
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FCS 3 as well. It’s a workhorse 🙂 It doesn’t have flashy features of Premiere, but unlike Premiere, it actually allows you to work.
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“@Eric – who are you? ”
I’m just a guy who edits with PPro…I do run the local Premiere Pro User Group.
I can’t say how things used to be with Adobe, but I can say that things seemed to have changed quite bit since then. They are eager to hear what users think, and they do listen.
As for a disclaimer about the trial, it’s right there on the bottom of the page where you download the trial…
“*The trial version of Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 does not include some features that depend on software licensed from parties other than Adobe. For example, some codecs for encoding MPEG formats are available only with the full version of this product.”
Now, I would agree that this needs to be a little clearer, but it is there. And I agree that Adobe should change the trial version to be complete, or get rid of it.
As for Avid – my bad…I was given bad information. I’m not trying to mislead anyone, or post bad information. I asked someone who gave me obviously the wrong info.
I responded to the posts here to try and help, and to share some information. You’re right – you and Eric M. have every right to vent your complaints and gripes. Don’t let me stop you. But for the benefit of other users, I thought I’d try and shed some light on what was going on.
I’ve been lucky to have had the chance to play with CS5 for some time now, and I can tell you…this isn’t the PPro you may have used in the past. It’s really, really good. Much more stable, lots of improvements, and Mercury is just amazing. People can post here about how it’s the same old PPro, blah, blah, blah. But unless you’ve used this version, I don’t think it’s fair to make critical comments about it. I’ll admit, previous versions have been less than perfect. And this one isn’t perfect either (no NLE is) – but it’s a hell of a release. The best one ever in my opinion, and I’ve been using Premiere since 1996. It’s what I use to make a living, and it’s never let me down.
But if you want this thread to just be a rant-fest, then I’ll just step aside and let you all have at it. Again, I was just trying to help out.
—Eric
Owner | 100 ACRE FILMS
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“Actually, i think that the lack of H.264 (Canon DSLR) presets is completely unrelated to licencing reasons.”
Are they not in the trial version PPro? I had heard that they were…
—Eric
Owner | 100 ACRE FILMS
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Eric Addison:
As an editor for 30 years of such platforms as Avid DS, Media Composer and lately on FCP, I really appreciate you sharing your experience with CS5 and clarifying many things. It is a refreshing change from the
childish rants in this thread.Avid DS/FCP Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
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