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  • CS4 MiniDV Transfer problem from Sony DSR-PDX10

    Posted by William Mcqueen on June 5, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    I still work mainly in SP and the camera operator has used his pair of Sony DSR-PDX10’s in SP (not on DVCAM) on many occasions and I have had no trouble transferring/capturing to PremPro on any number of occasions in the past. It usually comes up as mono.

    But recently I have had tapes from my friend’s camera of audio of which may be heard on the small speaker in the camera, but does not transfer to my HDD.

    Case 1. Wedding video – Camera used to carefully pick short scenes, by turning camera on/off into pause…

    Video and audio transfers appropriately in the first scene, but when filming resumes there is a short 2 minute section which follows video, but no audio until the 3rd scene which follows.

    Case 2. Dance Performance

    A woman introduces the dance sequence on a radio mic. The audio is mono and transfers/captured appropriately to HDD. When she finishes and the dancers assemble and perform, there is no audio track transferred during their performance. I have asked him to bring his camera around so we can see if we hear an audio track on the camera.

    I am not an experienced camera operator, so although I found the SONY manual, and there is an indication of Channels 3 and 4, I don’t know how that might have changed the output to PPro in capture to the HDD.

    But I still don’t have a handle on how to get to the audio in these instances, and I don’t know how to explain to the camera operator what the problem is. Which is basically, I can’t sync Camera A with Camera B.

    Cheers,
    Bill in Toronto

    William Mcqueen replied 15 years, 2 months ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Lance Lewis

    June 5, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    I am not sure if I am following you correctly on this one or not. But it sounds like you are saying that you had a wireless mic plugged into this camera that captured the woman speaking into your microphone. Depending on the camera settings available (i am not familiar with this camera) it may have been set to only capture audio from the wireless mic, so when it wasn’t being used, you will hear nothing. But again, I am not sure if that is what you are saying or not.

    It is possible to sync without sound though. Couple things to look for that will make your job much easier:

    1. Is there any flashes from someone taking a picture? If so, super easy: because a flash is only going to span 3 frames, with the brightest part of the flash being exactly 1 frame only.

    2. In the dance video, look for a jump or clap (not for the sound, but for the speed). These motions happen quickly and are easier to identify the exact frame. Although your cameras will be at two different angles or two different focal lengths (or both) you can still identify the point at which the hands first come together (a clap) or the point at which the first foot touches the ground (in a jump). It is a little tricky especially if one camera is on a wide shot, but it’s definetly doable. Once you think you have it right, check and double check yourself until you are confident.

    3. Look for any other quick movement. A hand swinging, something that quickly reverses direction, a stomp. Anything that happens definetively in one frame will serve as a good syncing point.

  • William Mcqueen

    June 5, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    I am astounded: In reading some posts on Adobe Forums, I found this:

    >3. Dec 30, 2010 7:58 PM in response to: mike mclenna
    >Re: Importing Audio Channel 3 in CS3

    >Unfortunately, Premiere Pro cannot capture channels 3 or 4 from DV >media. You will need a program called Scenalyzer for that.

    This was in response to someone who knew he recorded on Channel 3 and wanted to capture in CS3.

    For use in CS4, is Scenalyzer the only alternative for a fix?

    Cheers,
    Bill in Toronto

  • William Mcqueen

    June 5, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    Thanks,Lance.

    I found some hand movement of the dancers I could match, so it looks like that the sync will work.

    Your help has been invaluable.

    I’m still very surprised that PremPro can’t capture channels 3 and 4 as Final Cut does have alternatives, albeit complicated.

    Cheers,
    Bill in Toronto

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