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  • CS4 capture first frames missing

    Posted by Templeton Peck on December 19, 2009 at 1:15 am

    hi all,
    comparing .avi file captured with WinDV,VDUB with the one captured with Premiere Pro, I realized that PPR misses the very first frames at the beginning of the tape. Looks like the recording starts slightly after the playback; for any other point than the beginning of the tape is enough to start capturing few frames earlier than interested, but how can the problem be solved at the beginning of the tape?
    I’ve tried any combination of starting from Stop, from Still, controlling camera from PPR or camera itself, but starts always at the same point.
    any solution?

    goodnight

    Templeton Peck replied 16 years, 9 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Jon Barrie

    December 19, 2009 at 11:38 am

    Try to capture via FireWire but with the DV/HDV control set to none. Then hit the record button (G) and once it starts recording press play on the tape playback (camera) you should get all the visible frames within the capture file. But you won’t have correct timecode…

    Jon Barrie
    aJBprods
    http://www.jonbarrie.net

  • Templeton Peck

    December 19, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    hi jon,

    actually it doesn’t work, because via device control or manually hitting G, PPR goes in recording mode, but doesn’t actually start capturing, until it realizes there are some frames to capture (play mode), and the problem comes from the time it realizes platy is active and the moment it actually start capturing.
    the only way is to start capturing and then going REWIND during PLAY (exactly until it reah the beginning otherwise it stops) and then cutting from the exact point: like this it only drops one frame, but then is much easier to use WinDV… I just doen’t like not being able to obtain the same with PPR.

  • Jon Barrie

    December 21, 2009 at 3:51 am

    Thats great you have found a solution to your capturing problem. Professionals never use the first 10sec of a tape as it might not be running at speed when recording and can have errors on playback and that professional systems require some time for tape to reach constant threading speed before capturing. Like the default 2sec on ppro, fcp. We always put colour bars on the first 10-30sec of tape. I’m pretty sure if the capture settings are on none it will start capturing on hitting G, but if you tested it then I guess keep using winDV or use up the first 10sec of tape.
    -JB

    Jon Barrie
    aJBprods
    http://www.jonbarrie.net

  • Templeton Peck

    December 22, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    the first frames are not particularly important. Being myself technically precise I didn’t find nice to be able to set IN point to a frame that can’t be actually captured; good behaviour could be to tell that a particular IN setting cannot be accepted.
    Thanks for the good explanation of problems involved with the beginning of the tape. Now I know something else to take care with new tapes.
    thanks bye bye

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