CS3 real time rendering

[Jeff Brown]

As far as I know, there is no hardware that will make DVD rendering in Premiere real-time. You can get real-time playback for many things while editing, but DVD files will require compression (rendering).

-jeff

[Fabio Reina]

Thank you Jeff for your quickly response , my english is very very bad!!!
I mean, of course (with Encore…) as final product !
My problem is to avoid the red line over time line when i put some effect (native cs2 or… saphire for instance!). In this case with a new video card like nVidia quadro series can I solve my problem ?
Thanks.
fabio

fabio from italy

[Jeff Brown]

No, a new video card will not accelerate rendering in Premiere. Sorry. Even systems like Discreet Flame have to render Sapphire Effects!

-jeff

[Jon Barrie]

This won’t make saphire plugins realtime, but if you have a Matrox Axio Card you will get heaps of effects in Realtime. check out http://www.matrox.com/video
– Jon 🙂

How many editors does it take to change a light bulb?

[Fabio Reina]

Jeff, my doubts … still remain!! I saw on Adobe site ( https://www.adobe.com/products/aftereffects/opengl.html )
that cards like NVIDIA Quadro FX 350/1500/4500/5500 (PCI Express) are fully compatible with CS3. Adobe says: “OpenGL high-fidelity support in After Effects CS3 Professional includes support for blending modes, adjustment layers, track mattes, accelerated effects, anti-aliasing, 2D motion blur, lights, and shadows.” so I think and I ….hope this is true. What your opinion ? Another question: is there somebody who use fx quadro cards with Premiere ? Better if 1500 / 1700 model, so I will chat with him ?
Thanks.

fabio from italy

[Jeff Brown]

I rarely use AE, so this is just my opinion–
It sounds like AE will support OpenGL. I use a Quadro 4500 with Combustion. The card will support some OpenGL blend modes and lights, shadows, etc. in Combustion. BUT: this is only for the workspace (previewing). It is really necessary to render all effects for the final output. And, OpenGL does not really help with footage or sequences– the images still have to come from disc into RAM.
Some video I/O (not display) cards will accelerate transitions and effects in Premiere. But again, even the biggest baddest systems need to render some things.

-jeff

[Jiri Fiala]

I don’t think there is any render accelerator on the market for PPro. Even Matrox RTX2, which makes all editing and effects realtime (the matrox ones) still relies on CPU to do all the math when rendering.

You can accelerate editing and previewing process with a proper gfx/acceleration card, but if you need faster exports, the only way is the more CPU power way.

[Steven Schwartz]

You ignored Jon Barrie’s previous post, which was correct. In my experience, real time effects are possible with Matrox Axio (we have LE). Their suite of effects and many of Premiere’s transitions can be applied with no red line (render indicator). I don’t believe CPU’s can do all this work alone, even with a top-of-the-line video card.

The caveat is, as soon as you see you can play without rendering several color correction, time changes, scaling, etc., you say to yourself “OK, now I want dynamic linked AE comps and a couple of more layers of graphics and video.” And you’re back to the red line again. Kept simple, using only Matrox effects, you get true real time. And faster-than-real-time outputs in some, not all formats.

[Jiri Fiala]

Steven, I know all that, and it’s not contrary to Jon’s post. RTX2 does realtime editing, but it doesn’t accelerate rendering one iota. It doesn’t. I have sorted that out with Matrox staff. Try to edit a timeline with straight cuts and no effects (yes, there are project like this from time to time) and output that. No matter what settings you select, Matrox does not accelerate rendering.

[Eric Jurgenson]

I don’t think that is quite accurate. Matrox hardware (and the GPU, which is used in certain Matrox effects) accelerates rendering of sequences that use Matrox effects (and Premiere effects that Matrox emulates, like motion), and certainly Matrox accelerates MPEG2 exports. These factors can make a huge difference in system performance.