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  • CS 5.5 renders MPEG 2 poorly compared to cs 5.0

    Posted by Ted Doss on June 8, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    Hi hi,

    This is my first time posting here.

    I’m experiencing a loss in the quality of text in my rendered video after migrating from cs5.0 to cs5.5, and I would like to know if there is any way cs5.5 could give a better render, or if I should switch back to cs5.0 for the time being.

    The video that I’m rendering consists of two videos: a video of a power point presentation, and a video of the speaker/presenter pip’ed over the power point video. The text on the power point slide is poor quality when exported from cs 5.5 compared to the same video rendered in cs 5.0 with the same settings.

    All of my source video is apple pro res LT codec, and was captured on a AJA Ki pro device. My sequences are setup as progressive to match the source.

    I’m exporting as MPEG2-DVD
    Export settings:
    https://i1.creativecow.net/u/205208/mpeg2-dvd_settings.png

    Again, I’ve rendered the same project in both cs5.5 and cs5.0 each with the same export settings; however, the cs5.5 rendered video has blurry text (especially on the characters such as the ‘e’) on the power point slides where the cs5.0 looks fine.

    system notes:
    I have the latest quicktime version installed, and I’m working on window 7 systems.

    Comparison (Note: This is actually a pretty good case for cs5.5. Other slides in previous renders were much worse, but you can still see the difference here.):

    cs 5.5: https://forums.adobe.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-3725642-71410/bad+quality+progressive+timeline+cs5.5+-2.png

    cs 5.0: https://forums.adobe.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-3725642-71411/good+quality+progessive+timeline+CS5.0+-2.png

    Thanks,

    Ted

    Jörg Tochtenhagen replied 14 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Vince Becquiot

    June 8, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    Hi Ted,

    Let’s try an export at 648×480 and set your pixel aspect ratio to square.

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Ted Doss

    June 8, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Hey Vince, thanks for responding.

    I’ve just tried exporting with your dimensions and with the pixel ratio set to square, and got the same results.

    Interestingly in another test, exporting with a sequence set up as interlaced actually gives better text quality, but then the horizontal lines in the pip jitter, such as the boarder or when the speaker closes he eyes. Which is strange since both sources videos should be progressive.

  • Kevin Monahan

    June 8, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Can you try an encode with “Use Maximum Quality” enabled?
    If that doesn’t work, try disabling Mercury Playback Engine Hardware settings.

    Kevin Monahan
    Sr. Content and Community Lead
    Adobe After Effects
    Adobe Premiere Pro
    Adobe Systems, Inc.
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  • Ted Doss

    June 8, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Thanks Kevin!!!

    I had already checked “use maximum render quality” for previous renders, but I didn’t explore enabling and disabling the MPE. My previous videos were all rendered with MPE disabled, since the card was not “adobe supported”. I added my video card to the supported list (gtx 480), and did a comparison with MPE enabled and disabled. The MPE enabled render worked great!

    So, apparently I need MPE enabled in cs 5.5 to get similar results to cs 5.0.

    note: My cs 5.0 renders had MPE disabled.

    Solved.

    Thanks again Kevin,

    Ted

  • Andy Prada

    June 8, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    You obviously know a limitation/anomaly here Kevin….care to explain what’s going on?

  • Daniel Frome

    June 10, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    I think he’s stating a non-mercury rendering in 5.5 is worse than 5.0.

  • Jörg Tochtenhagen

    January 16, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Hello,

    been a while since the last post, i guess. I have the same problem with 5.5. and tried all kinds of workarounds. It all results in the fact, that:

    a) CS 5.5 with Mercury Engine enabled is not able to deinterlace anymore, the results are still interlaced, not matter what has been set in the export settings.

    b) CS 5.5 with ME disabled gets poor and blur result if interlaced material is deinterlaced.

    Both a) and b) are working on CS 5.03

    Testes with PAL 16:9 interlaced DV source and Export to MP4 progressive.

    best,

    Jörg

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