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Crossfading Track Envelopes with Mixer
Hi, I’m hoping someone will be able to help. I’m using vegas 7 and a Behringer BCF2000 mixer. I have a mulitcam edit already cut and I’m trying to mixdown the audio from 2-3 sources.
The mixer works well writing the envelopes, but I’d really love to not have to raise the other track. In other words is there a way to lower the fader for track one, and have track 2’s envelope and fader do the reverse. The result I am looking for is a realtime crossfade from track to track, back and forth using only one fader.
There is a hell of a lot of dialogue and 26 half hour edits. I’d really love to make this easier. I’ve been looking on jetdv/sony forums and trying to work with auto ducking features of excalibur and ultimate, but they don’t do what I need… Any help?
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4 Replies
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If it’s only two cameras, why would the second track NEED an envelope? When the first track fades out, the second would be visible. When the first fades back in, the second won’t be visible.
Edward Troxel
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Hi Edward,
Thanks for the prompt reply. But the problem I have is with audio and not video. I have a 8 camera shoot that is already cut visually. There are two, sometimes three main tracks of audio. The cameras are setup inside a vehicle and it is necesary to cut from driver to passengers regularly.Due to the nature of the program, it has hundreds of cuts per episode.
I have therefore created the quickest method of fading out one track and bringing up another I could think of incorporating a contour shuffle and a BCF2000. Using these devices I am able to spool to the end of a grab, create points on both tracks using a slight touch of the mixer, then moving to a halfway mark between the next dialogue grab raising and lowering the appropriate tracks giving me a nice cross fade from one to the next then back again. I’ve even placed some strips of gaffer at the top of the slider to make sure I don’t take the levels too high.
This is great but, it still takes more time that I think it should. Ideally I’d love to be able to ride just the levels for the host and when his hits the deck, the passenger audio (or track two) rises taking it’s place.
The end result is 2-3 tracks of audio with an envelopes fading out as others fade in, giving one final track.
Any ideas?
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I don’t have a great soluton, but how about this?:
Scrub through dialog 1 and delete out the sections with no dialog (can be relatively quck using the waveforms as a guide). Do the same with the other dialog wich will be pretty quick because you will cut out the parts so that what remains will be where the gaps in the other dialog are, plus some overlap.
Then, select the fitst bit of the 2nd dialog, right-click and choose Select Events to End. Hit the numeric 8 key to pop all the dialog 2 pieces up to the same track as diaolg 1. You would now have one track with the dialog one and two bits crossfading back and forth.
Gary Kleiner
Learn Vegas and DVD Architect
http://www.VegasTrainingAndTools.com
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Hey Gary,
Thanks for your input…. I think I’ll have to soldier on with this… it’s there is a difficultly with having all audio tracks on the same level…. it’s too easy to lose track of which grab is from which mic and it also creates issues when using the syncing feature…. by having all audio tracks on a seperate line I can throw a rough shot from another camera and trim it for length and ask it to slip sync and it’s done….
Cheers for your input though!
Mick
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