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Credit Rolls: do them in LiveType or FCP?
Hello again!
I’m getting much more comfortable with Final Cut Studio since I’ve been using it exclusively for the last five months over my non-linear Accom StrataSphere, which I had used since ’95 when it was the VideoCube. However, I wish I had the StrataSphere for credit rolls because my all-day experience today trying to create one in LiveType and from within FCP has yet to yield usable version!
Thanks to LiveType Central.com, I was able to get a great tutorial on the whole program. I think it’s the best LiveType tutorial that I have seen, and I used DMTS’s “Final Cut Studio” training plus a few other sources to get up to speed with LiveType as well as the rest of FCS.
LiveType Central does a good job explaining how to create a Credit Roll. However, the Credit Roll I am creating also has underlines and font size differences which their tutorial does not address. I’ve first typed everything in and used the “leading” controls to tighten up line spacing (a nightmare in and of itself), but when I roll it per the tutorial, the smaller fonts move up the screen faster than the larger ones do and the underlines are on their own other planet!
Anyone who has ever worked with StrataSphere and even VideoCube/TurboCube would know that these effects look great within minutes and can even roll up to a stop on a copyright notice (etc.). For as great as LiveType is, I have already noticed some things like credit rolls (which is used by everything from corporate videos to movies) that will take a while to perfect. Please don’t take this as a slam against FCS because there is much more that it will do better as compared to the StrataSphere!
Can anyone suggest a great credit roll tutorial for LiveType? Am I better off doing a credit roll within FCP (it looks like the Boris plugin within FCP does not do rolls, unless I manually keyframe the page)?
Thanks again in advance!
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FCP with Boris gives me good results, but yes, you do have to keyframe. There is the Title Crawl tool as well, just under Boris (Title 3D). That’s a bit weird to use though, because, in my experience, it’s dependent not on key frames but length of clip.
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Why not make a photoshop file with all you text and run it through After Effects. Pretty simple and precise, need to import a Title safe marker into photoshop to help align things. My last crawl was 114″
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[James Mulryan] “Why not make a photoshop file with all you text and run it through After Effects”
or for this matter, use after effects exclusively. The text tool in AE6.5 is something that should be emulated for all apps across the board. I just created one yesterday and it was painless, fun, and easy. You should probably add a little blur though to make things look a little more smooth if you are editing in an interlaced environment.
Jeremy
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Thank you all for your help!
I went with Winston’s suggestion of using Boris’s Title Crawl (changing it to Roll – I wouldn’t have known it was there if not for Winston pointing it out) within FCP. As compared to keyframing static pages in Boris or Photoshop (via AE), I liked the idea of the Boris Title Crawl (Roll) because it seems to be much easier to revise right from within FCP since this client will probably add, delete or change.
Thanks again for your help – LiveType, for as great as it is for what it does, should definitely NOT be used for credit rolls (in my opinion) until a later date! Boris is fast, easy to revise and powerful enough.
Thanks again!
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CHV makes a great credit roll – inexpensive, too.
Google them.
W
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You’re thinking about credit rolls as a self-contained item or a filter. Instead, think of building a tall composition. The comp can be done in any application that outputs an alpha. Then use motion keyframes to move the whole thing up the screen.
Let’s say you want some of LT’s great effects. Create them as little movies, import them into FCP, make a sequence that is, say, 2k tall and 680 wide. Place the movies into discrete locations in the vertical frame, Place other text itmes in the frame.
Bring this comp into a stand-szied comp. Resize it to its original size if FCP insists on squishing it. Move it off the bottom of the screen, set a keyframe.
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