Creative Cloud – Some Peace of Mind Offered…

[Franz Bieberkopf]

Jim,

I suspect that this is probably serving one category of user quite well – the larger clients. It may even be seen as a lowering of costs to them, where smaller clients see it as a rise in costs.

The arstechnica posting has put it most succinctly:
The people who the software-as-a-service phenomenon hurts are the those who use the software infrequently, would rather not upgrade to each new version as it rolls out, and are content to continue using old versions until they literally will not run on new hardware and operating systems.

It seems educational pricing is hit particularly hard by this (as we’ve seen here in the forum). But that may be self-correcting as institutions start teaching other software.

But, yeah, I roll my eyes whenever someone posts “Won’t somebody please think of the corporations and their shareholders!”.

Franz.

[Andy Field]

Yes I was being snarky about creating your own Photoshop. But that’s the point they have a monopoly because the competition either sucked or gave up. This isn’t a go government sanctioned monopoly. We helped create it by buying their tools.

But voting with your feet works. Look what happened to Netflix after it raised rates and killed DVD distribution. Mass subscriber exodus. They rescinded all that and begged subscribers to come back. But it was t until they in I aged again that their stock soared and people came back (see House of Cards). If adobe stock drops and people stick with cs 6. Adobe will have to change. In mean time I like the improvements and ill subscribe

[Franz Bieberkopf]

[Andy Field] “But voting with your feet works.”

Andy,

While it is important to “Vote with your wallet” as you say, it is not the only way to engage with people and issues. Online forums are a good example of alternatives.

Franz.

[Andrew Kimery]

[Andy Field] “But voting with your feet works. Look what happened to Netflix after it raised rates and killed DVD distribution. Mass subscriber exodus.”

Netflix didn’t kill DVD distribution, they just said they were going to spin it off, and rates never went back down.

[Andy Field]

https://m.theweek.com/article.php?id=220171

[Jim Giberti]

[Andy Field] “If adobe stock drops and people stick with cs 6. Adobe will have to change. In mean time I like the improvements and ill subscribe”

Agreed Andy.
My small creative shop is probably a pretty good example of the way that Adobe has penetrated and evolved the market (to their credit IMO).
At any given time we’ve got in development/production:
A few films and TV spots.
A couple of websites.
Interactive museum exhibits.
Print and web ads and collateral.
Interactive displays/apps.
Original music/radio creative.

Aside from the audio done in Digital Performer and the film/TV in FCP, everything else is produced using Adobe apps.
We’ve always upgraded our apps regularly but this certainly makes me think of just “locking into” CS6 for the foreseeable future because I just don’t like things as amorphous and untested and big in scope of change, as the CC approach.

I’m hardly a kid but I’m anything but old fashioned. As creative director, I’m out there battling with every new camera system, FCPX, all kinds of innovative gear, in virtually every medium, as it brings promise.

I just don’t see the innovation or benefit here.
I see all the earmarks of corporate, shareholder based decision making, and that always gives me pause.
CS6 works great and I don’t need or desire to work in a cloud.

[Andrew Kimery]

Yeah, that’s pretty much what I said, isn’t it? I guess I don’t see that as killing DVD distribution as Netflix DVD subscribers would be still be getting DVDs from Netflix but just via a wholly owned subsidiary called Qwikster. While Netflix backed down from that they didn’t back away from the price hike. I used to get 1 DVD a month + streaming for like $9/mo. If I want that same service now I have to pay I think $16/mo.

[Gary Huff]

[Richard Cardonna] “Maybe thats why the adobe CEo just said that they where not planning any CS version instead of saying that there will be no future CS version. HMM. an escape hatch?”

I would be surprised if Adobe doesn’t backtrack on this issue.

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Jim Giberti] “CS6 works great and I don’t need or desire to work in a cloud.
“

thats the thing – the guys bleeding to get it out – the guys on stage at max (did you see the guy for AE? plus al mooney is fairly palpably a mensch) – are turning out just flat out great software. I basically adore CS6 and I’m half mad to get my hands on PPro7 –

but stepping back, looking at adobe corporate, I swear to god this suddenly feels like a really dodgy situation.

I will do PPro perpetual rent with adobe as landlord – but that really is exactly as far as I will go. The rest of the suite has my legal name on it at CS6. I’ve paid for that.

There is just no way i am taking two shots of Kuler colour wheels -and for the love of god please – 20 GB of a locker and wandering off into shantanu narayen’s rental scheme. Where I am renting off Shantanu Narayen.

Coincidentally I asked Shantanyu about this earlier and he said:

“CreativecloudCreativecloudCreativecloudCreativecloudCreativecloudCreativecloud”

then he hit me over the head with a teapot and took my wallet.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Chris Harlan]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “I will do PPro perpetual rent with adobe as landlord – but that really is exactly as far as I will go. The rest of the suite has my legal name on it at CS6. I’ve paid for that. “

One thing though–If you have CS6, isn’t the current year of the whole Suite the same price as Pr, alone?