Creative Cloud (again) – Australia, Pricing and Random Thoughts

[Kevin Monahan]

Yes, I’ve heard that pricing from Creative Cloud in Australia will be very competitive. This is very good news.

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[Sean Bates]

Definitely seems like an easy choice given the high price in Australia. I’m surprised it’s such a big difference. I’ve been on the cloud for a year and I’ve been very happy with it. I’m sure a few years down the road there will be break even point where it would be the same or cheaper to be on the perpetual licensing plan, but for some reason it seems a lot less painful paying out a small monthly fee vs a big chunk of cash up front. Plus it’s nice knowing you’re always going to be up to date.

[Aindreas Gallagher]

that’s all delicious – and I’m effectively smitten by the cloud, given it costs eight lattes and a few good sandwiches a month in total outlay –

but I still hold to the point that adobe should be really careful – careful not to lose the entire narrative of what is right now about to be the de facto replacement for broad scale editing everywhere and.. anywhere… – boom boom!.

there is plenty of time and space for adobe to present highly valid carrots for subscription based software. Not that anyone thinks they are about to do it –
but. the actual idea that they would be about to push paid editing/everything they sell across all creative disciplines/ right off the psychological client ownership cliff…

that, as they say, is total madness – and would swamp completely the entire PR narrative of what is a creative suite release for the ages.

that said – incredibly unlikely to happen. i just thought I would go headless chicken on a forum.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Michael Hendrix]

Keep your eyes on the goal Adobe…. keep your eyes on the goal Adobe….

We took a gamble about 4 or 5 months ago and started the transition to Premiere betting on the next version of PPro fixing the bugs and hopefully a few new features. This week, we hit the jackpot.

If it works out of the box with minimal hiccups, its a game changer. Adobe Anywhere, game changer.

My next call for finding freelance editors:

Project: X
Location: Doesn’t matter
Hardware: Doesn’t matter
Software: Okay how about I pay for a month of Cloud Subscription, add $75 to your invoice

Keep your eyes on the goal…. Keep your eyes on the goal…..

[Tom Daigon]

You have a 30 year veteran whose been using PrP for 2 years and AE for 10 right here (not counting Avid MC / Avid DS / FCP) right here 😀

Tom Daigon
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[Aindreas Gallagher]

hi there,

I am a plumber, I have tools – in my toolbox, these tools directly represent my livelihood.

the idea that my toolset, the entire toolset can vanish at the quirk of a bank transfer, or scandalous charge from the vendor is basically insane.

plumbers do not rent pliers.

let me try this again – there is absolutely no way that I am going to use a toolset as delicate as that. Any software vendor that feels they could force their entire product purchaser base into a perpetual car hire purchase scheme is out of their living minds.

I mean this – they are out of their living minds.

The push back to that effort would beggar the worst PR disasters of recent human memory.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Tom Daigon]

Andreas, I can certainly relate to that philosophy.

Tom Daigon
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[David Lawrence]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “I am a plumber, I have tools – in my toolbox, these tools directly represent my livelihood.

the idea that my toolset, the entire toolset can vanish at the quirk of a bank transfer, or scandalous charge from the vendor is basically insane.

plumbers do not rent pliers.”

Amen!

My brother in LA had that exact scenario the other day. I’ll quote some of his text msg:

[Daniel Lawrence]“Imagine going to a hardware store and suddenly being told that you couldn’t buy a hammer, or saw, or… You could only rent it. What’s the difference between physical tools and software tools? What makes software such a special case (easy duplication?) that the idea of ownership should go away?”

It’s a great question.

I’ve said this before but it bears repeating — software rental not only means your entire toolset “can vanish at the quirk of a bank transfer, or scandalous charge from the vendor”, so too can your access to the digital files you’ve created with these tools. These files are your property. Software rental means the software vendor controls access to your digital property, not you. That truly does sound insane.

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[Kevin Monahan]

We’re talking Aussie pricing here. It’s a better deal for them down under.

Kevin Monahan
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[Tom Daigon]

[David Lawrence] “software rental not only means your entire toolset “can vanish at the quirk of a bank transfer, or scandalous charge from the vendor”, so too can your access to the digital files you’ve created with these tools. These files are your property. Software rental means the software vendor controls access to your digital property, not you. That truly does sound insane.”

This was the concept that motivated me to speak out on this issue.

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com