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Create Extended Markers
Hello –
One of the cool new features that Adobe added in CS6 was the ability to have markers that spanned over a length of time, instead of just one point in the clip. This is particularly useful to me, because I am often editing in another language that I only half know, so putting in translations for parts that confuse me mean that I can keep the translation right on the media file / timeline.
I refer to these as “extended markers” because I’m not aware of a specific name that Adobe gave these, and this is what they were called in FCP (R.I.P.)
However, I am very unclear about how to CREATE these markers. The only way I’ve figured out was to make a marker in a timeline or clip using the marker button or hotkey, then open up the Markers palette, then manually change the “out” time until I can see the handles on the timeline that I can then manipulate with my mouse. Does anyone know of an easier way to make these markers – hopefully with the keyboard?
On the topic of extended markers, I really would love for extended markers like these to come in from Adobe Prelude… seems like a no brainier to me…
Ryan
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G’day Ryan,
These markers do come in from Prelude and that’s where you would want to make them since they are far easier to set and lay out in that app compared to Pr.
You can hold the alt key while you are typing into the marker and it overrides the typing and allows for IO and JKL control of the playback and extended marker duration and position.
You can use the panel for the logging to alter the IO timecode points too. They should be updating to the clips already in a Pr project too once they are saved in Prelude. Providing you are actually looking at the exact same file for both apps.
Cheers JB 🙂
Jon Barrie
Adobe Video Solutions Consultant ANZ
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I’m sorry what do you mean “You can use the panel for the logging to alter the IO timecode points too. They should be updating to the clips already in a Pr project too once they are saved in Prelude?”
I am working in a project that has already been in premiere for some time, and I’m annotating it as I build the documentary film. As I’m sure you know, it’s not like logging is something that you do all at once for a doc, as you make connections, etc, over time through the editing process, your footage morphs.
So, I’m looking for a way to modify these markers in Premiere. It sounds like holding alt may do this. I will test out.
R
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I could not have worded this post better myself as I’m running into the same exact issue…also working on a documentary. I’m already in premiere (as I’m constantly bringing in new footage) and I’ve been doing the metalogging there. And, sure enough, I haven’t been able to find the way to add…essentially…an end of marker…mark without manually dragging out an endpoint in the edit marker dialogue box and then refining in the timeline. I’ve tried every google search I could think of to try and figure out a shortcut to essentially turn a marker into a marker that I can adjust the duration of.
After reading through this thread, I’ve attempted to incorporate alt, but I still am not finding the “extended markers” that existed in FCP. What’s frustrating is that the basic functionality is here. There’s gotta be a way to crack the code from a shortcut perspective!
I’ll be watching this string closely.
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Yes, it’s clear that these extended markers are in v1 in CS6 and they have a long way to go. I have attempted to use this ALT shortcut, Jon, but have not been able to get it to work. There just needs to me a mappable hotkey for “Marker out” or whatever.
Although placing markers in prelude is a nice idea in an ideal workflow, and a powerful tool…. let’s be honest – how many documentaries use ideal workflows? Exactly none 🙂 We need this functionality in Premiere.
Ryan
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Hey Guys,
The Alt function only works while in Prelude and making the comments in a marker as it is playing, the alt key temporarily allows JKL IO keys for playback and marker IO respectively, releasing alt means each letter is a typable letter into the comment of the marker.
Have you tried the marker panel inside premiere pro to access the markers of a either an opened clip or the timeline?
I agree that having a way to default the duration of a marker in PPro or use something like alt+drag to extend the length of the marker in the timeline or the clip itself is an extremely helpful feature.
Add the feature to this space, the more they engineers hear about key features the higher the ranks it goes to being implemented. 🙂
Cheers JB
Jon Barrie
Adobe Video Solutions Consultant ANZ
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