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  • Crazy Marathon Export Times

    Posted by Alex Ojeda on April 19, 2013 at 6:27 pm

    hi,

    Is anybody else experiencing a huge outrageous amount of time on export in FCPX?

    Im running on FCP 10.0.8 and a brand new Mac Pro OSX 10.8.3 12 Cores 2.4 ghz and 24 RAM.

    I transcoded all my footage upon import to ProRes422.

    A 4 minutes video clip, with text, footage and a few effects, transitions was giving me over 12 hours of export time. I had to cancel out of that. I tried to use compressor and after waiting for a few hours its finally showed that the export failed.

    I try exporting to H264 and Proress422(so it doesnt need to transcode) but having the same issue. Huge amount of time to export, and failed attempts.

    I tried with a MacBook pro, and its even worse. Different project, new test project, and it all gives me same unbelievable results.

    Something is way off! any ideas what may be causing this or how to solve it?

    Many thanks!

    Alex Ojeda replied 13 years ago 5 Members · 16 Replies
  • 16 Replies
  • Loren Risker

    April 19, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    Definitely unusual. Are you using 3rd party effects?

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    OutOfFocus.TV – Original series, music videos, and entertainment for your couch.

  • Alex Ojeda

    April 19, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    Hi,

    Im not using any 3rd party effects.

    The only thing in the timeline that is not as the rest, is that in a 30 second segment I have three generators stacked one above the other. Would this be a problem or it shouldnt?

  • Alex Ojeda

    April 19, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    After several hours of export time, when it reached aprox 45%, export failed with a 2025 quicktime error message. 🙁

    So not only is the outrageous waiting, but something is definetly off.

  • Loren Risker

    April 19, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    stacked generator shouldn’t be a problem.

    quicktime error 2025 means “staleeditstate” whatever that means.

    Have you tried deleting all your render and transcoded files?

    ————-
    OutOfFocus.TV – Original series, music videos, and entertainment for your couch.

  • Alex Ojeda

    April 19, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    No, I havnt tried that. How do I go and do that? Do I have to do it manually? Where are they located?

    What are the consequences? Would it do anything to my project? Or that mainly means I have to re-transcode and rerender?

    many thanks in advance!

  • T. Payton

    April 19, 2013 at 11:44 pm

    Something is definitely up. FCP X should share in a few minutes not hours. I typically see 1x or .5x export times.

    Delete your render files by choosing File > Delete Event Render Files or File > Delete Project Render Files. I would go ahead and delete them all.

    If that doesn’t make your render take just a couple of minutes my next thought would be a corrupted clip or title.

    Copy some of your clips to a new timeline and try exporting. See if you can isolate the trouble.

    Hope this helps.

    ——
    T. Payton
    OneCreative, Albuquerque

  • Alex Ojeda

    April 20, 2013 at 3:43 am

    I went ahead and created a new project. Dropped in some generators and footage, totaling about 4 minutes, and it took about 12 minutes to export.

    Then I duplicated the troubled project, removed three parts with effects, stacked generators, etc. It had to re-render and that took a few hours, but finally the export took about 16 minutes.

    That being said, how can I build a more complex project if it wont export? I need to simply it in order to make it usable, it seems. I dont understand. It wasnt that crazy on effects and stuff. But something that had to do with those three parts was the problem.

    I guess Ill have to redo them in a light version in the meanwhile, I need to have it ready by Monday

    Many thanks for all your help. Have a great weekend.

    Alex

  • T. Payton

    April 20, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    [Alex Ojeda] ” 4 minutes, and it took about 12 minutes to export.”

    That still seems a bit long to me. What video card do you have in your MacPro? What about your drive setup. Where are you storing your media?

    [Alex Ojeda] “It had to re-render and that took a few hours”

    A few hours to render a 4 minute project? That sounds like a huge amount of time. Even 12 minutes to export sounds too long. I worked on a feature length movie in the fall on an older 2006 MacPro. 1080p prores footage, and every one of the 2000 clips were color corrected, many stabilized, with a cinema widescreen matt over all of it and it took about 3 hrs to render the complete 1.5 hr film.

    What kind of effects specifically do you have in use? What kind of titles?

    I think something is up with your system, even though it is new.

    In contrast I am getting radially different performance on on a small project today. 1080p. Canon 7D footage, not transcoded, Titles throughout, most clips with color corrections, a bunch of CoreMelt Lock & Load on clips. I didn’t render before sharing. Total timeline is 6:42. I just exported a 720p Youtube Version and it took a little over 6 minutes to export. I’m on a 27″ iMac, 24GB Ram, GeForce 680MX 2048 MB

    Why don’t you duplicate your project without render files, and then export without rendering. See what kind of times you get.

    ——
    T. Payton
    OneCreative, Albuquerque

  • Alex Ojeda

    April 21, 2013 at 5:52 am

    Yes, it is a very long time. Im going insane here, honestly. But ive tried a couple dozen things already from forums, etc.

    The video card is a ATI Radeon HD 5870 1024 MB.

    I have two HD’s in the computer (I ordered it with both), one TB each. One called Main HD (where software, OSX etc resides) and other called VIDEO (where FCP X events, footage, etc.)apps,

    No much filters, mostly generators, lower thirds, titles, etc. ive created in Motion 5. And most of them with drop zones, behaviors, keyframes. Very little almost to none filters, because it already happened a while back, as most generators are in 3D, that the filters didnt render as they should in FCPX, so I took them off a while back.

    Yes, im sure something is off with my system, and reading your numbers im about to pull my hair, as I had to pay some good money for mine, thinking it would be much faster and help me speed things up.

    I already duplicate it and export it, it takes several hours. What can I do? 🙁

  • Dave Gage

    April 21, 2013 at 8:45 am

    Alex,

    Take a look at a recent post I made-
    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/344/19530

    Do you ever run DiskWarrior? I had all kinds of problems with an external RAID drive used purely for FCP X media, Events, and Projects. I and OWC thought it was a bad enclosure, but it turned out that either FCP X and/or Carbon Copy Cloner were doing something to the directory structure because the drive got hosed bad a couple of times. Now that I run DiskWarrior every month or so, I’ve not had an issue. (No, I don’t work for the company, but it may be the best $100 I spent last year.) Aside from this problem, I’ve been fairly trouble free with FCP X since day one.

    There are lots of different individual reasons why people have problems like yours, but one can be directory structure corruption, so if you can run DW on it, it may not solve the problem, but it can’t hurt. In terms of other possible causes, T. Payton is about as good as they get around here, so he may have some other suggestions to try also.

    I wish you luck,
    Dave

    MBP i7, 16 GB RAM, (Early 2011 model)

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